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Joegrane
SF dumped serious $ into QB J Garoppolo.

Jimmy Garoppolo signed a 5 year, $137.5 million contract .... Garoppolo received a $7 million signing bonus and $28 million roster bonus as part of his first year salary. His 2018 and $7.5 million of his 2019 salary are fully guaranteed bringing the full guarantee to $48.7 million...
https://overthecap.com/player/jimmy-garoppolo/3001/

This contract is seriously front-loaded with a $37mil 2018 cap hit!

He could be cut after three years without much dead$, but that would be after paying $30 mil per year on average.

People are talking about the Eagles being Super Bowl contenders for many years but how will they do that if Wentz has a $30mil cap hit?
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300000091...er-bowl-windows

The Eagles are currently $9mil OVER the cap for 2018! That does not include important FAs: N Bradham, T Burton, B Allen. It also does not include the 4 or so young starters whose contract is up after 2018, players the Eagles usually like to extend before they reach free agency.

I don't know that the trend towards dumping a ton of $ on QBs will continue. Three of the four teams in the championship games had relatively inexpensive QBs. Very good defense was the common trait among those teams, not elite QBs.

It will be interesting to see what K Cousins, and the three FA QBs in Minn will get, along with the extension for N Foles when he is traded.

I'd be surprised if any of the remaining QB-needy teams overpay for a QB. The Eagles and Rams may be showing that you win with an inexpensive, young QB, not with an over-priced journeyman like Cousins.

It may turn out that Cleveland was correct to not select a QB before they had enough talent ready to surround the young QB. They are a small market team that probably can only get to the SB by having a QB on a rookie deal.
samaroo
Man I'm tired of reading about salary cap issues. Smart GMs always find ways around it. We have a smart GM. Who here was bitching about our call last year? I think we signed a couple guys anyway...
Pbfan
QUOTE (samaroo @ Feb 9 2018, 11:07 PM) *
Man I'm tired of reading about salary cap issues. Smart GMs always find ways around it. We have a smart GM. Who here was bitching about our call last year? I think we signed a couple guys anyway...


I hate to break it to you but we didn't find a way around it. We're significantly over the cap right now. The damage isn't awful but we'll have to trade away 2 players and ask Peter's to take a cut in the best case scenario...

Carson Wentz isn't an issue as he's under contract for a while (smart move Roseman). However, if he continues this play, he will see $$$...

Let's see if he wants to do these crazy runs when he's in the last year of his deal though.
Joegrane
Carson is signed through 2019. You know they are not letting him get to free agency so they have to extend him after 2018.

Unfortunately cutting or the retirement of J Peters after 2018 would not save as much cap $ as I thought.
https://overthecap.com/player/jason-peters/756/

List of guys who are 2019 FAs, including B Graham.
https://overthecap.com/free-agency/philadelphia-eagles/

QUOTE (Pbfan @ Feb 10 2018, 05:24 AM) *
I hate to break it to you but we didn't find a way around it. We're significantly over the cap right now. The damage isn't awful but we'll have to trade away 2 players and ask Peter's to take a cut in the best case scenario...

Carson Wentz isn't an issue as he's under contract for a while (smart move Roseman). However, if he continues this play, he will see $$$...

Let's see if he wants to do these crazy runs when he's in the last year of his deal though.

Phits
QUOTE (Pbfan @ Feb 10 2018, 05:24 AM) *
I hate to break it to you but we didn't find a way around it. We're significantly over the cap right now. The damage isn't awful but we'll have to trade away 2 players and ask Peter's to take a cut in the best case scenario...

If we found a way to sign/acquire the players we wanted (which we did), we certainly found a way around it.
Joegrane
One of the "ways around it" is to back-load the contract, especially the cap hit. That gets you more players on your team in a particular year, but then it becomes more difficult in the subsequent years.

It really seems that between the manipulation of the cap hits and the 1 year FA deals, Howie was trying to make a run in 2017 knowing it would be more difficult in subsequent years.

For example Cox's cap hit: 2016 6.5mil$, 2017 9.5mil, 2018 18 mil!
https://overthecap.com/player/fletcher-cox/1824/

Z Ertz 2017 3mil 2018 10.5mil
https://overthecap.com/player/zach-ertz/112/

J Peters 2017 7mil 2018 10.5mil
https://overthecap.com/player/jason-peters/756/

A Jeffery, remember he was extended in mid season so apparently Howie used some of 2017's remaining cap room for Jeffery and reduced the cap number for 2018. 2017 11mi 2018 7mil 2019 15mil
https://overthecap.com/player/alshon-jeffery/101/

Tim J's mid season extension. 2017 3.5mil 2018 5mil 2019 13mil
https://overthecap.com/player/timmy-jernigan/2987/


QUOTE (Phits @ Feb 10 2018, 01:02 PM) *
If we found a way to sign/acquire the players we wanted (which we did), we certainly found a way around it.
Rick
QUOTE (samaroo @ Feb 9 2018, 11:07 PM) *
Man I'm tired of reading about salary cap issues. Smart GMs always find ways around it. We have a smart GM. Who here was bitching about our call last year? I think we signed a couple guys anyway...

Thank you. People around here always talk about cap problems like the sky is falling. We were going to have issues this season and have to give up a lot of people, etc. Yet, we kept almost everyone we wanted/needed and, oh yeah, there's that whole SB trophy thing.

I get it, some of you love working the numbers and talking about it but, honestly, everytime someone comes here and talks about the sky falling re:cap space, they always work around it. These aren't huge issues any longer.

More importantly, we're not 7 days from winning the SB, can we please enjoy it a bit before worrying so much about next season?

With that said, the NFL is very strange when it comes to QBs. Foles--who played extremely-well before when he was here in Philly and as a backup in KC (the Rams thing we all know what happened there)--is a backup in this league. I think he just proved he should absolutely be starting SOMEWHERE in the NFL. How many teams have issues at QB? Browns? Jags? Jets? SF (before they got Big G)? There are others. Yet, nobody wanted to take him on as a starter even though he proved himself BEFORE he beat the Patriots to win the SB. Yet Garoppolo has a VERY limited résumé and they give him a ton of money. I just don't understand....
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