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Reality Fan
...is that the Eagles think they are getting Wentz...it is who they want....it is why they tried to trade to 1...and then thinking the rams are going for Goff they traded to 2......so now the Rams will take Wentz.....and he will be a stud......lolol

Welcome to Philadelphia.....lol
nephillymike
I wonder if they have a good idea of who they're getting or if they really are comfortable with both.
Zero
I thought I heard a voice clip of Howie saying that they have a good relationship with the Rams and that there has been communication ... intimating that the Rams said they're taking Goff.
Reality Fan
QUOTE (Zero @ Apr 22 2016, 06:07 AM) *
I thought I heard a voice clip of Howie saying that they have a good relationship with the Rams and that there has been communication ... intimating that the Rams said they're taking Goff.


Zach Berman had a piece that quoted Howie as saying as much......but until the rams make it official you never know...lol
Pila
I've got an Euro that they'll let time expire and forego the pick altogether.
SLOiggles
Something to additionally consider:

Carson Wentz and Jared Goff share the same agent.
D Rock
QUOTE (nephillymike @ Apr 22 2016, 03:34 AM) *
I wonder if they have a good idea of who they're getting or if they really are comfortable with both.

If this is the case, I'd personally find it somewhat pathetic. You can't rate both guys equally. They've got to be more excited for one than the other. The consensus is that Goff is more polished and NFL ready, while Wentz "might" have the higher ceiling. I'm not really seeing it with either of them. But that's why I'm in film & TV and not the NFL.

mcnabbulous
QUOTE (D Rock @ Apr 22 2016, 11:57 AM) *
But that's why I'm in film & TV and not the NFL.

There isn't a whole lot of evidence to suggest anyone really knows what they're doing when it comes to evaluating QBs.

I think there is zero chance we don't know who we're getting. And it seems like that is Wentz. I have major doubts about his production to date, but he does have intriguing physical attributes. We just have to hope that our coaching staff can mold him into a star.
Eyrie
QUOTE (D Rock @ Apr 22 2016, 05:57 PM) *
If this is the case, I'd personally find it somewhat pathetic. You can't rate both guys equally. They've got to be more excited for one than the other. The consensus is that Goff is more polished and NFL ready, while Wentz "might" have the higher ceiling. I'm not really seeing it with either of them. But that's why I'm in film & TV and not the NFL.

We already know which one they rate more highly. It'll be whichever one is left on the board, and we'll be told that is the guy we'd have taken had we been at #1.
D Rock
I agree with you both. It's a LOT to give up for a guy with 600 career pass attempts in South Freaking Dakota.
nephillymike
QUOTE (D Rock @ Apr 22 2016, 11:57 AM) *
If this is the case, I'd personally find it somewhat pathetic. You can't rate both guys equally. They've got to be more excited for one than the other. The consensus is that Goff is more polished and NFL ready, while Wentz "might" have the higher ceiling. I'm not really seeing it with either of them. But that's why I'm in film & TV and not the NFL.



BTW, we moved that beautiful wife of the NFL player you know and her husband out of Philly last week. I heard from the soldiers that she was looking hot!! I forgot to tell them to say DRock said hello!
nephillymike
QUOTE (Reality Fan @ Apr 21 2016, 09:14 PM) *
...is that the Eagles think they are getting Wentz...it is who they want....it is why they tried to trade to 1...and then thinking the rams are going for Goff they traded to 2......so now the Rams will take Wentz.....and he will be a stud......lolol

Welcome to Philadelphia.....lol


Visions of Leroy Keyes and OJ Simpson come to mind.

Why?

Because there is a conspiracy to prevent me from ever tasting football heaven!!

BTW, you have incoming.
Joegrane
I don't know about "zero chance" but I agree that this is really close to zero.

The Rams are not just trying to find the best talent for their team. Although, since Goff is thought to be more NFL ready, he is probably a better fit for them.

The Rams are trying to build a FAN BASE! That is the key point.

Wentz is expected to need more time to develop than Goff. Can you imagine the Rams taking Wentz and have the many Cal grads in their desired fan base complaining that Goff is playing better for some other team? It would be a marketing NIGHTMARE!

Even if Wentz was more NFL-ready, I think the Rams would have to take Goff due to the marketing factor. They want to attract all of those Cal grads and Cal fans in So. CA who are currently fans of other NFL teams. Some of those fans will buy tickets to see their former QB play for the home-town team.

The availability of Cal's QB is a dream scenario for the Ram's marketing people.

QUOTE (mcnabbulous @ Apr 22 2016, 01:10 PM) *
There isn't a whole lot of evidence to suggest anyone really knows what they're doing when it comes to evaluating QBs.

I think there is zero chance we don't know who we're getting. And it seems like that is Wentz. I have major doubts about his production to date, but he does have intriguing physical attributes. We just have to hope that our coaching staff can mold him into a star.
Joegrane
This tweet by Wentz might be another reason he is not perceived to be as good a fit for the Left Coast.
http://www.csnphilly.com/sites/csnphilly/f...riend_jesus.png

I suppose SanDiego and Seattle are somewhat different than LA. I once saw a segment on R Wilson. He apparently is quite Pentecostal. I was very surprised at what he was willing to put on tape!

I once saw an interview by P Rivers on the Catholic network--EWTN. He seemed comfortable talking about his faith but very clearly is more subtle about it.

His Christian faith was clearly important to Dawk, but he was not very vocal about it in public.

I have no problem with the guys sharing who they are, however in subtle ways. That's the approach I've taken in my life. I don't dislike T Tebow but I don't see the need to be so vocal or preachy about it. Live your life. "Actions speak louder..." I don't need to hear about it 24-7. I'll see it in the way you live your life.

Hopefully Carson will take an approach closer to that of P Rivers and our great B Dawk.

QUOTE (Joegrane @ Apr 23 2016, 12:47 AM) *
I don't know about "zero chance" but I agree that this is really close to zero.

The Rams are not just trying to find the best talent for their team. Although, since Goff is thought to be more NFL ready, he is probably a better fit for them.

The Rams are trying to build a FAN BASE! That is the key point.

Wentz is expected to need more time to develop than Goff. Can you imagine the Rams taking Wentz and have the many Cal grads in their desired fan base complaining that Goff is playing better for some other team? It would be a marketing NIGHTMARE!

Even if Wentz was more NFL-ready, I think the Rams would have to take Goff due to the marketing factor. They want to attract all of those Cal grads and Cal fans in So. CA who are currently fans of other NFL teams. Some of those fans will buy tickets to see their former QB play for the home-town team.

The availability of Cal's QB is a dream scenario for the Ram's marketing people.
nephillymike
QUOTE (Joegrane @ Apr 23 2016, 09:54 PM) *
This tweet by Wentz might be another reason he is not perceived to be as good a fit for the Left Coast.
http://www.csnphilly.com/sites/csnphilly/f...riend_jesus.png

I suppose SanDiego and Seattle are somewhat different than LA. I once saw a segment on R Wilson. He apparently is quite Pentecostal. I was very surprised at what he was willing to put on tape!

I once saw an interview by P Rivers on the Catholic network--EWTN. He seemed comfortable talking about his faith but very clearly is more subtle about it.

His Christian faith was clearly important to Dawk, but he was not very vocal about it in public.

I have no problem with the guys sharing who they are, however in subtle ways. That's the approach I've taken in my life. I don't dislike T Tebow but I don't see the need to be so vocal or preachy about it. Live your life. "Actions speak louder..." I don't need to hear about it 24-7. I'll see it in the way you live your life.

Hopefully Carson will take an approach closer to that of P Rivers and our great B Dawk.


Plenty of Christian churches in Philly!! C'mon down!
Eyrie
QUOTE (Joegrane @ Apr 24 2016, 03:54 AM) *
I have no problem with the guys sharing who they are, however in subtle ways. That's the approach I've taken in my life. I don't dislike T Tebow but I don't see the need to be so vocal or preachy about it. Live your life. "Actions speak louder..." I don't need to hear about it 24-7. I'll see it in the way you live your life.

Hopefully Carson will take an approach closer to that of P Rivers and our great B Dawk.

As an atheist I agree that is the correct approach to take, and I'd apply it to any belief system including religion.

Live your life according to your values and don't force those values onto other people. Instead, accord them the same respect that you would want them to show you.
Joegrane
I agree, unfortunately there are militant ideologies and religions such as the militant wing of Islam, militant atheistic socialism (communism, etc).

QUOTE (Eyrie @ Apr 24 2016, 06:06 AM) *
As an atheist I agree that is the correct approach to take, and I'd apply it to any belief system including religion.

Live your life according to your values and don't force those values onto other people. Instead, accord them the same respect that you would want them to show you.

Phits
QUOTE (Joegrane @ Apr 23 2016, 10:54 PM) *
His Christian faith was clearly important to Dawk, but he was not very vocal about it in public.

Dawk was quite vocal when it came to "praising God" and giving thanks. He was often the leader in pre and post game prayers.

QUOTE
I have no problem with the guys sharing who they are, however in subtle ways. That's the approach I've taken in my life. I don't dislike T Tebow but I don't see the need to be so vocal or preachy about it. Live your life. "Actions speak louder..." I don't need to hear about it 24-7. I'll see it in the way you live your life.

Hopefully Carson will take an approach closer to that of P Rivers and our great B Dawk.

The more popular you are at your chosen profession, the more leeway people are willing to give regarding your public acknowledgements towards religious beliefs. The difference with Tebow (and a Dawkins) is that he seemed to be marketing himself based on his Christian values instead of as a football player.

D Rock
QUOTE (nephillymike @ Apr 23 2016, 05:04 AM) *
BTW, we moved that beautiful wife of the NFL player you know and her husband out of Philly last week. I heard from the soldiers that she was looking hot!! I forgot to tell them to say DRock said hello!

Yeah, that move didn't work out to well for them....

D Rock
QUOTE (Joegrane @ Apr 24 2016, 03:54 AM) *
This tweet by Wentz might be another reason he is not perceived to be as good a fit for the Left Coast.
http://www.csnphilly.com/sites/csnphilly/f...riend_jesus.png

I suppose SanDiego and Seattle are somewhat different than LA. I once saw a segment on R Wilson. He apparently is quite Pentecostal. I was very surprised at what he was willing to put on tape!

I once saw an interview by P Rivers on the Catholic network--EWTN. He seemed comfortable talking about his faith but very clearly is more subtle about it.

His Christian faith was clearly important to Dawk, but he was not very vocal about it in public.

I have no problem with the guys sharing who they are, however in subtle ways. That's the approach I've taken in my life. I don't dislike T Tebow but I don't see the need to be so vocal or preachy about it. Live your life. "Actions speak louder..." I don't need to hear about it 24-7. I'll see it in the way you live your life.

Hopefully Carson will take an approach closer to that of P Rivers and our great B Dawk.

I live in a community in the northern part of Los Angeles that is hugely Mormon. There is a huge jewish community throughout LA, and significant representation for pretty much every major faith on the globe. Not sure where you get the left coast as being any more or less anti religious than any other urban part of the country.

Your religion to me, is like your dick. It's great that you have one. It's neat that you're proud of it. But, please don't wave yours in my face, and I'll act in kind.

Joegrane
How would a guy who is hard right on issues such as gay marriage fit on a team that is trying to build a fan base in CA? I don't know where Wentz is on the issues, but I bet the GM of the Rams knows quite well.

QUOTE (D Rock @ Apr 24 2016, 01:04 PM) *
... Not sure where you get the left coast as being any more or less anti religious than any other urban part of the country. ...

D Rock
QUOTE (Joegrane @ Apr 25 2016, 12:15 AM) *
How would a guy who is hard right on issues such as gay marriage fit on a team that is trying to build a fan base in CA? I don't know where Wentz is on the issues, but I bet the GM of the Rams knows quite well.

A guy who is "hard right on gay marriage" needs to get his fucking head checked and either grow the hell up or quick the bigotry. There's no place for that in a civilized society.
Zero
QUOTE (D Rock @ Apr 25 2016, 09:49 AM) *
A guy who is "hard right on gay marriage" needs to get his fucking head checked and either grow the hell up or quick the bigotry. There's no place for that in a civilized society.

This belongs in a different forum, but this is an issue that belongs to state jurisdiction, not federal.
D Rock
QUOTE (Zero @ Apr 25 2016, 03:14 PM) *
This belongs in a different forum, but this is an issue that belongs to state jurisdiction, not federal.

History has proven that bigotry must be fought on a federal level. Civil rights are not state jurisdiction.
The Franchise
QUOTE (D Rock @ Apr 25 2016, 12:42 PM) *
History has proven that bigotry must be fought on a federal level. Civil rights are not state jurisdiction.


Not sure which history you studied. At the state level is where challenges to DOMA began. Outrage and marches against Jim Crow laws began at the local level. The Federal govt. simply shifts when the people demand it.
D Rock
QUOTE (The Franchise @ Apr 25 2016, 06:41 PM) *
Not sure which history you studied. At the state level is where challenges to DOMA began. Outrage and marches against Jim Crow laws began at the local level. The Federal govt. simply shifts when the people demand it.

And both ended with federal legislation or court decisions.

Just saying.
Joegrane
Not worth the effort to comment.
QUOTE (D Rock @ Apr 25 2016, 09:49 AM) *
A guy who is "hard right on gay marriage" needs to get his fucking head checked and either grow the hell up or quick the bigotry. There's no place for that in a civilized society.

mcnabbulous
QUOTE (Joegrane @ Apr 25 2016, 09:51 PM) *
Not worth the effort to comment.

You literally spent time and effort commenting with this.
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