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JeeQ
There's going to be a ton of Mariota/Eagles related news for the next few days so I figured rather than barrage the board with a ton of Mariota related news/rumors I'd keep it all in this thread... So without further ado here comes the insanity
JeeQ
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Former Chip Kelly assistant: I think he’s still trying to get Marcus Mariota

One coach who knows Chip Kelly well believes the Eagles are still in pursuit of Marcus Mariota.

Nick Aliotti, who worked with Kelly for six years including four as Kelly’s defensive coordinator at Oregon, said on Arizona Sports 98.7 FM that he believes Kelly will continue to explore trades that put the Eagles in position to draft Mariota on Thursday night.

“If there’s a way that he can get Marcus Mariota without selling the farm, I think he’s still trying to do that,” Aliotti said.

Kelly didn’t tell Aliotti that directly, but Aliotti says that he knows Kelly well enough to know that Kelly has a plan for how he wants his offense to work, and that plan will work a lot better with a quarterback like Mariota.

“I know Chip and I have a lot of respect for Chip. He has a plan,” he said. “I’ve had no conversations with Chip so I’m not putting words in his mouth, but I really think that if he can get Marcus Mariota he’s able to do exactly what he wants to do with his offense there in Philly.”


The Eagles may not have the necessary ammunition to move all the way up to No. 2 overall and get Mariota. But don’t put it past Kelly to keep trying.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/...marcus-mariota/
JeeQ
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Report: Mariota’s camp believes Chargers, Eagles trying to trade up to draft him

On Tuesday, Titans General Manager Ruston Webster said that he has had trade talks with teams regarding the second overall pick in the 2015 draft but that none of them have been with the Chargers.

According to Sal Paolantonio of ESPN, that isn’t convincing members of Oregon quarterback Marcus Mariota’s camp that the Chargers won’t wind up taking a trip up the draft board to secure the Heisman Trophy winner’s services. Paolantonio reported on Wednesday that the feeling around the quarterback is that the Chargers are part of a two-team competition to make a deal that nets them Mariota.

The other team won’t come as much of a surprise to anyone who’s been following Mariota buzz through the pre-draft process. It’s the Eagles and Mariota’s camp is joined by former Oregon defensive coordinator Nick Aliotti in the belief that Chip Kelly is still on the trail of the player he recruited to Oregon. Unsaid is what the two teams would be paying to move up the board, although there would seem to be a good chance that Philip Rivers or Sam Bradford would be involved in a deal that moved the Titans to a later spot in the first round.

The Rams, Jets and Browns are also mentioned as teams in the mix, which pretty well covers all the teams that have been linked with Mariota at one point or another in the process. So have the Titans, of course, and there figure to be a few more reports about their intentions before we finally find out what will happen with the No. 2 pick on Thursday.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/...p-to-draft-him/
Phits
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Via Pat McManamon of ESPN.com, the Browns have offered the Titans their two first-rounders, the 12th and 19th overall picks, for the second slot.


Linc
Phits
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Without a great quarterback, you have nothing. Until you have that quarterback, search for him.

Chip Kelly's platonic ideal of a quarterback will be available tomorrow. If he's smart, Marcus Mariota will be an Eagle, no matter the cost.

Marcus Mariota Is Worth The Pain Of The Eagles Losing Players And Picks
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Linc
koolaidluke
Ridiculous article and bleedinggreennation should be ashamed to have posted that. There are some views that are simply illegitimate. For example, if someone wanted to write an article that the world was flat no serious site would post that article because it is an illegitimate position.

Disgraceful article. I have always thought very little of BGN but even so I am shocked and disgusted.
JeeQ
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Report: Browns Think They Can Get Sam Bradford Today

You can almost see things coming together, with more intrigue about the about landing spots of several quarterbacks tonight.

With the Eagles lacking sufficient trade chips to get to the second pick in the 2015 NFL Draft and Marcus Mariota, it appears they’re working on the process.

Peter King of Sports Illustrated said a source told him the Browns think they have a good chance before the draft starts to acquire Eagles-for-a-minute quarterback Sam Bradford.

That would line up with the potential three-way deal we’ve been talking about here for a week, checking off a lot of the boxes that the Titans, Browns and Eagles would need.

Presumably, the Eagles would get one of the Browns’ first-rounders in any exchange for Bradford, to put with their own 20th pick (though there would likely be other moving parts in that deal).

Coupled with the fact the Eagles may be trying to move some spare parts, it sure appears they’re open for business, which will make today a fascinating one as Kelly works to put his stamp on the team.

And while Bradford’s coming off a pair of ACL tears, he’d be the most legitimate starting quarterback the Browns have had in ages, and certainly a better use of a swapped first-rounder than Brandon Weeden or Johnny Manziel.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/...bradford-today/
JeeQ
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As The Eagles Try To Trade Up, Fletcher Cox Could Be Available

Chip Kelly said at the end of last season that Fletcher Cox had been the Eagles’ most valuable player. In a sign of how badly Kelly wants to trade up in the draft, there’s now talk of the Eagles dealing their MVP.

Albert Breer of NFL Network reports that Cox is viewed as a potential trade piece for the Eagles.

Other players the Eagles have reportedly considered trading include quarterback Sam Bradford, guard Evan Mathis, cornerback Brandon Boykin and linebacker Mychal Kendricks. But Cox would probably be the biggest prize of them all: The 12th overall pick in the 2012 NFL draft, Cox has started all 16 games at defensive end each of the last two years and has a very affordable salary of $1.8 million this year, followed by his fifth-year salary of $7.8 million next year.


Kelly wouldn’t take trading Cox lightly, but he may just do it if it allows the Eagles to move into position to draft Marcus Mariota. The Eagles don’t have enough ammunition in draft picks alone to move up to No. 2 overall, but a package that included a player like Cox could be enough to sweeten the deal and persuade the Titans to pull the trigger.

We won’t know for sure how this is all playing out until we hear Roger Goodell call Mariota’s name tonight. But Kelly will spend the next 12 hours trying to get his quarterback. Even if he has to give up a good player in the process.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/...d-be-available/
JeeQ
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Mariota To Eagles Keeps Gaining Steam

The path won’t be clear until the Buccaneers select quarterback Jameis Winston, which barring something unforeseen they will do. Once that happens, it’s becoming harder not to imagine the Eagles leaping from No. 20 to No. 2 to get quarterback Marcus Mariota.

In the second and final mock PFT draft of the never ending mock-draft season, the trade was included. The sense that coach Chip Kelly would give up plenty to get the one sure thing he sees in this (and perhaps any) draft continues to gather momentum, with more and more veteran players reportedly available to be sent elsewhere and with the Browns reportedly believing they can finally get quarterback Sam Bradford.

The brilliance of the maneuver, if it happens, was the Bradford trade. The Eagles gave up quarterback Nick Foles, a fourth-round pick in 2015, and a second-round pick in 2016 for Bradford. (They’ll get back a fourth-round pick from the Rams if Bradford doesn’t start at least eight games, and a third-round pick if he ends up on injured reserve before Week One.) That’s a fairly large sacrifice to get a guy who ultimately would become a piece of the Mariota puzzle, but having Bradford to send to Cleveland becomes the key piece in giving Tennessee a first-round selection for 2015 significantly higher than pick No. 20.

So with the Bradford (and likely more) going to Cleveland for the No. 12 selection (and possibly Johnny Manziel), the Eagles can package No. 12 with No. 20, a first-round pick in 2016, and whatever else it takes to get Tennessee’s attention — including one or more of the veteran players who reportedly are available, including Mychal Kendricks, Vinny Curry, Brandon Boykin, and/or Fletcher Cox.


It doesn’t mean it will happen. But it clearly shows that the Eagles will try to get there. In about 12 hours, we’ll know if they did.

Until then, we know Chip Kelly has the power to do whatever he wants. What’s the point of having that power if he doesn’t use it to get the one guy who can run his offense the way he wants it to be run?

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/...-gaining-steam/
Eyrie
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So with the Bradford (and likely more) going to Cleveland for the No. 12 selection (and possibly Johnny Manziel), the Eagles can package No. 12 with No. 20, a first-round pick in 2016, and whatever else it takes to get Tennessee’s attention — including one or more of the veteran players who reportedly are available, including Mychal Kendricks, Vinny Curry, Brandon Boykin, and/or Fletcher Cox.



How did the Herschel Walker and Ricky Williams deals work out?

Indeed, when was the last example of a mega-deal that benefitted the team that traded up?
Phits
QUOTE (Eyrie @ Apr 30 2015, 03:48 PM) *
How did the Herschel Walker and Ricky Williams deals work out?

Indeed, when was the last example of a mega-deal that benefitted the team that traded up?

Keep in mind that neither Herschel nor Ricky play the most pivotal position in sports. To your point, the New York Giants won 2 SB's a s result of the mega deal to get their franchise QB:

The New York Giants received:
Eli Manning, QB

The San Diego Chargers received:
Philip Rivers, QB
2004 3rd-round pick (Nate Kaeding, PK)
2005 1st-round pick (Shawne Merriman, OLB)
2005 5th-round pick (traded to TB for Roman Oben, OT)
Eyrie
QUOTE (Phits @ Apr 30 2015, 08:58 PM) *
Keep in mind that neither Herschel nor Ricky play the most pivotal position in sports. To your point, the New York Giants won 2 SB's a s result of the mega deal to get their franchise QB:

The New York Giants received:
Eli Manning, QB

The San Diego Chargers received:
Philip Rivers, QB
2004 3rd-round pick (Nate Kaeding, PK)
2005 1st-round pick (Shawne Merriman, OLB)
2005 5th-round pick (traded to TB for Roman Oben, OT)


I seem to recall the NJ VaGiants defence being more important than Manning Minor for at least one of those SuperBowls. I'll agree though that he has been their franchise QB.

But we'd need to offer much more than they did for a player who was refusing to play for the Chargers and the NJ VaGiants were effectively only moving from #4 to #1. Mariota will be worth that only if he leads us to a SuperBowl win, but the cost of getting him will be so high that we'll take a couple of years to rebuild his supporting cast before we can be legitimate contenders. Even then the odds are against us.
koolaidluke
QUOTE (Phits @ Apr 30 2015, 02:58 PM) *
2005 5th-round pick (traded to TB for Roman Oben, OT)


That 5th rounder ended up making it's way to the Eagles via Tampa and became Trent Cole.
JeeQ
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Could Eagles Be Trying To Get No.1?

Here’s an intriguing rumor that has emerged with the draft less than three hours away.

As much of the trade chatter focuses on the Eagles trying to swing a deal with the Titans for the No. 2 overall pick in the draft, the Eagles also could be trying to go all the way to No. 1.

If the Titans are driving too hard of a bargain for the chance to get Marcus Mariota after the Buccaneers take Jameis Winston, the ideal Plan B could be to get Tampa to ditch its Plan A, offering a haul of players and picks in exchange for a 19-spot climb.

It’s unclear what the Eagles would offer, or what the Bucs would want. The Buccaneers could take quarterback Sam Bradford as part of the process, exchanging the many off-field questions surrounding Winston with a significant on-field question regarding Bradford’s twice-torn ACL.

For Tampa Bay, a chance to back out of the top spot could be enticing, especially if the offer gives them multiple pieces that would allow coach Lovie Smith and G.M. Jason Licht to more quickly build an entire team that fits their vision for the franchise’s offense and defense. It also gives the powers-that-be a way to avoid rolling the dice on Winston, especially if the Eagles make an offer than legitimately can be characterized as something the Bucs couldn’t refuse.

At a time when the Buccaneers want an extra first-round pick, this could be the way to make that happen — in 2015, 2016, and perhaps beyond.

Maybe the Eagles will spark talks with Tampa in an effort to persuade the Titans to be more reasonable in their demands. Regardless, the biggest question mark entering the first night of the draft potential will become a bit more interesting.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/...to-get-to-no-1/
JeeQ
Here we fucking go
JeeQ
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What package are #Eagles talking about to go to No. 1 or No. 2? Two 1st rounders, a 3rd rounder, Fletcher Cox, Boykin, Kendricks, more. Wow.


Fuck me...
JeeQ
Jameis goes 1st
JeeQ
Titans go with Mariota
JeeQ
Close the thread... just... just... close the thread

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