But I think Howie stood in his way. So after two winning, but disappointing seasons with mostly Reid's players, the FO situation comes to a head and Kelly wins, Howie is out. So honestly, this is year 1 for Chip in my book. Gotta say the man has steel balls and given what I have seen since he's been here, he is probably still working dozens of contingencies as he remolds the team the way he wants to. Got to say it is entertaining, I hope his unconventional approach works and shakes up some of the old school concepts governing the league.