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post Mar 7 2018, 11:21 AM
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QUOTE (nephillymike @ Mar 7 2018, 06:37 AM) *
As usual, we disagree on a few points.

I don't think his value plummets. It may decrease a little, but it seems to me that McCarron and Garapolos value held up fine. Granted, if he plays a decent amount and shits the bed, then it will.

I think you will agree that a completely free agent Foles will have more bidders than those who have to meet the Eagles trade demands this year. More bidders will make for a more lucrative contract and increase the likelihood of him going a place he wants to go. I think that is reasonable. However, he will need to play this year at high backup rate salary vs, good starter rate. That's a cost no doubt, and even if his contract as a FA is more lucrative than the one he gets in a trade, he will be behind where he could be but may make it up at the end of the deal. Maybe. Probably not. But he'd have the benefit of being more selective.

For the Eagles, sure if you measure his value in terms of picks, then no doubt he is more valuable now. No doubt. But you need to factor in the 3rd round comp pick in determining that net value. However, depending on how much they value his insurance policy, that may exceed his value in picks. For me, I tend to think Carson bring ready at the midpoint of recovery, AFTER WEEK SIX, is reasonable, and I think the value of Foles starting six games this year over his replacement has a big impact on us making the playoffs and/or qualifying for home field advantage. I put his expected value at 1-2 wins with Carson expected absence of six games. If your tea leaves say Carson will be ready game one, then a trade now may be the best return. I go midpoint. To me a 1st and 2nd less a lost 3rd round comp pick compensates me adequately for my perceived risk. I know others have different risk premium calculations than I.


First, you assume that Wentz won't be ready for the first 6 weeks. Second, once the season starts the Eagles have little leverage to trade him for a bag of donuts. Unless another Bridgewater episode happens no team is going to give you anything for a guy set to be a FA. What would be the point to do it then? The only thing that happens for Foles is that he loses out on the chance to get a lucrative extension this year. You mention McCarron and Garrafalo but you leave out a big part with both of them, potential. For Foles the time is now while his performance dulls the failures he has had in the past. The other 2 guys have yet to show that failure. Even now the Eagles will not get a king's ransom...there are too many decent QBs on the market.


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post Mar 7 2018, 09:04 PM
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QUOTE (Reality Fan @ Mar 7 2018, 11:21 AM) *
First, you assume that Wentz won't be ready for the first 6 weeks. Second, once the season starts the Eagles have little leverage to trade him for a bag of donuts. Unless another Bridgewater episode happens no team is going to give you anything for a guy set to be a FA. What would be the point to do it then? The only thing that happens for Foles is that he loses out on the chance to get a lucrative extension this year. You mention McCarron and Garrafalo but you leave out a big part with both of them, potential. For Foles the time is now while his performance dulls the failures he has had in the past. The other 2 guys have yet to show that failure. Even now the Eagles will not get a king's ransom...there are too many decent QBs on the market.


I take it that you assume that Wentz will be ready week one.

Is that what you are basing your opinion on?

What if you knew it would be week six, does that change anything for you?
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