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- nephillymike   We survived.   Dec 17 2017, 04:34 PM
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|- - Joegrane   I wonder if some of the guys on the DLine are nick...   Dec 19 2017, 09:50 PM
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- - HobbEs   Our whole secondary has Michael Lewis Syndrome. W...   Dec 18 2017, 09:24 AM
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- - HobbEs   If I recall this sloppiness started in the Bears g...   Dec 19 2017, 09:34 AM
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- - Reality Fan   people forget way too much as the season goes on.....   Dec 21 2017, 01:08 AM
- - Rick   QUOTE (Reality Fan @ Dec 21 2017, 02:08 A...   Dec 21 2017, 06:15 AM
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post Dec 21 2017, 06:15 AM
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QUOTE (Reality Fan @ Dec 21 2017, 02:08 AM) *
people forget way too much as the season goes on....only three teams have amassed over 400 yds against this team...the Giants twice and the Chargers. Much of the failings of the defense have been bad field position they were put in by the offense among other things. The Giants did the same thing in the first game and not many other teams copied them. The Seahawks won largely of the improvisation of Wilson. Hard to prepare for that. They handled Cousins and Newton. They have played some good QBs. Manning, Cousins, Wilson, Rivers and Smith are all ranked in the top 10 and the only one who torched them was Manning.

It is not so much that they are scheming poorly, they are not executing. As Schwartz has said and it is apparent when you watch them, they don't make a lot of changes, they just play better to win the games at the end. That is on the players.

And they executed poorly against Chicago in the 2nd half. At some point, the coaches bear responsibility for the players not executing. Poor tackling is partially a coaching thing. If they're doing it for an extended period--like they are now--coaches need to light a fire under their asses.

If it were as much on the players as some people seem to think there would be little need for coaches since, well, the players have to execute and they should know what to do, right?
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post Dec 21 2017, 09:25 AM
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QUOTE (Rick @ Dec 21 2017, 06:15 AM) *
And they executed poorly against Chicago in the 2nd half. At some point, the coaches bear responsibility for the players not executing. Poor tackling is partially a coaching thing. If they're doing it for an extended period--like they are now--coaches need to light a fire under their asses.

If it were as much on the players as some people seem to think there would be little need for coaches since, well, the players have to execute and they should know what to do, right?


Against Chicago? The bears scored 3 points. Bad example. It is tough to drag young players through this stretch when you are winning so much because it is their tendency to think they are supposed to win because you are having so much success. That is the challenge of coaching. The fact that they have won most of these games is a result of good coaching to overcome that.


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QUOTE (Reality Fan @ Dec 21 2017, 09:25 AM) *
Against Chicago? The bears scored 3 points. Bad example. It is tough to drag young players through this stretch when you are winning so much because it is their tendency to think they are supposed to win because you are having so much success. That is the challenge of coaching. The fact that they have won most of these games is a result of good coaching to overcome that.

Good point.
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post Dec 22 2017, 06:50 AM
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QUOTE (Reality Fan @ Dec 21 2017, 10:25 AM) *
Against Chicago? The bears scored 3 points. Bad example. It is tough to drag young players through this stretch when you are winning so much because it is their tendency to think they are supposed to win because you are having so much success. That is the challenge of coaching. The fact that they have won most of these games is a result of good coaching to overcome that.

Yes, they only scored 3 points but like you--and others around here point out--cherry-picking stats doesn't tell the whole story. They tackled porrly against a REALLY bad team. They got away with it. They tackled poorly against a really GOOD team in LA and, well, how many points did they give up?

Then they tackled poorly against another bad team--the Giants--and, again, how many points did they give up?

If it were a game, I'd not be worried, it's been the past 2.5 games now. That is a trend and has me worried until they fix it.
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