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- Joegrane   Reasonable Expectations for Nick Foles   Dec 14 2017, 09:54 PM
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> Reasonable Expectations for Nick Foles
post Dec 15 2017, 02:22 PM
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This writer has Foles as an average NFL QB.

That's too high for me. Maybe he is but he'll have to prove it by winning at least two of the next three and being competitive in the playoffs. I expect him to perform like the QBs in the 2nd quartile--below average but not terrible.

He has Foles ahead of E Manning. I don't. I still think Manning is a good QB when behind a decent O Line. He becomes terrible behind a bad O line like Foles was in 2014 and like so many other QBs. The stupid Giants loaded up on receivers but neglected the O Line in front of their antique QB.

QUOTE (Joegrane @ Dec 14 2017, 09:54 PM) *
A Kulp wrote a good article today about Foles' history, especially his performances with good O Lines vs bad O Lines.

Clearly Foles does not have the O Line and skill position weapons he had in 2013--Shady, D Jax, Mac and a solid TE.

The O Line was a big mess in 2014 and eventually Foles broke his collarbone while being sacked.

We know the Rams did not have a good O when Foles was there.

Obviously Foles does not have the skill position weapons that he had in 2013. Teams had to play bend but not break to protect against DJax. They also had to respect Shady. Finally Chip's uptempo system will produce yards and points when there is offensive talent.

However there is a solid amount of talent around Foles. The left side of the O Line is suspect but otherwise strong. There is a balance of talent at the skill positions except the weakness at 3rd down back.

My concern is that it could take some time for the chemistry to develop with the starting WRs and Ertz. Thankfully they do have some time to work on that with upcoming winnable games vs NYG and OAK. Hopefully the Eagles will have #1 seed wrapped up by the Dallas game and so Foles may only have to play a quarter or less.

Can Foles perform like an average QB with this supporting cast?
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