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> Ya got to admit, Wentz went down in heroic fashion, it will be another part of the tragic/triumphant lore of this team
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post Dec 12 2017, 11:03 PM
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To throw a TD with a torn ACL is unreal, add in that it was 4th down and the pass was threaded between two defenders for a fingertip catch inches above the ground by Jeffrey. But that ain't enough, he sets the Eagles single season TD pass record at 33, besting a record that stood for 50+ years. Oh, did I forget that propelled us to get the W and the NFC east title with three games to play, first team in league to do it. It was a helluva a way to go out.

All that said, I am sure he will come back even better and I still think this is just the beginning of the amazing shit this kid will do for us in the next decade.

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post Dec 13 2017, 09:56 AM
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QUOTE (Birdwatcher @ Dec 13 2017, 05:03 AM) *
To throw a TD with a torn ACL is unreal, add in that it was 4th down and the pass was threaded between two defenders for a fingertip catch inches above the ground by Jeffrey. But that ain't enough, he sets the Eagles single season TD pass record at 33, besting a record that stood for 50+ years. Oh, did I forget that propelled us to get the W and the NFC east title with three games to play, first team in league to do it. It was a helluva a way to go out.

All that said, I am sure he will come back even better and I still think this is just the beginning of the amazing shit this kid will do for us in the next decade.

That is camp fire story shit.


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post Dec 13 2017, 10:24 AM
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let another team have a heroic QB, I want a smart one. He could have slid at the 1. Was it a big play? Sure, but not even close to worth the risk. Maybe he'll learn from it.

Scrambling QB's are a ticking timebomb.
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post Dec 13 2017, 10:41 AM
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QUOTE (Pbfan @ Dec 13 2017, 04:24 PM) *
let another team have a heroic QB, I want a smart one. He could have slid at the 1. Was it a big play? Sure, but not even close to worth the risk. Maybe he'll learn from it.

Scrambling QB's are a ticking timebomb.

The injury likely occurred on his last step as he burst for the dive - doubt it had anything to do with the contact.


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post Dec 13 2017, 11:31 AM
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QUOTE (Pbfan @ Dec 13 2017, 10:24 AM) *
let another team have a heroic QB, I want a smart one. He could have slid at the 1. Was it a big play? Sure, but not even close to worth the risk. Maybe he'll learn from it.

Scrambling QB's are a ticking timebomb.

In a game where the play usually ends by some form of contact, every player is a ticking time bomb. I don't think it has to do with him being a "scrambling QB". Understanding how/why the injury occurred would go a long way to prevention.

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a torn ACL is often not a result of contact. A recent study conducted by Dr. Bert Mandelbaum (an orthopedic surgeon and ACL researcher), found 68 ACL injuries that were classified as non-contact ACL injuries. Sometimes, it just happens.


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post Dec 13 2017, 11:55 AM
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QUOTE (Pbfan @ Dec 13 2017, 10:24 AM) *
let another team have a heroic QB, I want a smart one. He could have slid at the 1. Was it a big play? Sure, but not even close to worth the risk. Maybe he'll learn from it.

Scrambling QB's are a ticking timebomb.


You question Wentz's intelligence? His only issue was his age and the feeling we all had that we were invincible in our youth. It is a harsh lesson he just learned, but he is a very intelligent kid and I am sure he will learn from this and become a better and WISER QB going forward. Don't confuse his intelligence with the wisdom that experience can only bring. As I said before, if this was going to happen, better early in his career than later, both from a healing and learning perspective. I am still confident that he will return and have a career that will be filled with amazing moments and ultimately, success.
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post Dec 13 2017, 12:43 PM
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Very well spoken.

I say the Seahawks caused the ACL injury. They stripped the ball from Wentz two weeks ago as he was headed to the end zone. Against the Rams he had time to stretch the ball out and just let it cross the goal. Instead he powered into the end zone with the ball well secured.

Part of Carson's success has been his competitiveness and toughness. It is hard to tell a 235lb QB to not take on a DB at the goal line.

I fear Pbfan is correct that he will be a ticking time bomb like most other running QBs.

QUOTE (Birdwatcher @ Dec 13 2017, 11:55 AM) *
You question Wentz's intelligence? His only issue was his age and the feeling we all had that we were invincible in our youth. It is a harsh lesson he just learned, but he is a very intelligent kid and I am sure he will learn from this and become a better and WISER QB going forward. Don't confuse his intelligence with the wisdom that experience can only bring. As I said before, if this was going to happen, better early in his career than later, both from a healing and learning perspective. I am still confident that he will return and have a career that will be filled with amazing moments and ultimately, success.


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QUOTE (Pbfan @ Dec 13 2017, 10:24 AM) *
let another team have a heroic QB, I want a smart one. He could have slid at the 1. Was it a big play? Sure, but not even close to worth the risk. Maybe he'll learn from it.

Scrambling QB's are a ticking timebomb.

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post Dec 13 2017, 12:59 PM
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QUOTE (Pbfan @ Dec 13 2017, 03:24 PM) *
let another team have a heroic QB, I want a smart one. He could have slid at the 1. Was it a big play? Sure, but not even close to worth the risk. Maybe he'll learn from it.

Scrambling QB's are a ticking timebomb.


Agreed.

It really is as simple as each time you are hit there is a chance you get hurt. How big or small that chance is does not matter, the chance is there. Sooner or later you will get hurt if you roll the dice enough times. I hope Wentz decides that in the future it is better for the team for him to slide instead of taking unnecessary hits. I want Wentz here for the next 15 years, not 10. The less hits he takes the better.
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post Dec 13 2017, 04:05 PM
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QUOTE (Pila @ Dec 13 2017, 11:41 AM) *
The injury likely occurred on his last step as he burst for the dive - doubt it had anything to do with the contact.

Oh stop already! He's not a pocket passer. If he was, he wouldn't be the guy we've already grown to love.

It's a contact sport and sometimes these things happen.
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post Dec 13 2017, 07:28 PM
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QUOTE (Rick @ Dec 13 2017, 04:05 PM) *
It's a contact sport and sometimes these things happen.

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post Dec 13 2017, 08:17 PM
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QUOTE (Pila @ Dec 13 2017, 09:56 AM) *
That is camp fire story shit.
Pass the marshmellos, hershey bars, and graham crackers . . .


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post Dec 13 2017, 08:22 PM
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QUOTE (md717 @ Dec 13 2017, 08:17 PM) *
Pass the marshmellos, hershey bars, and graham crackers . . .

It seems that you're out of practice. I believe the correct spelling is marshmallows.

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post Dec 13 2017, 08:25 PM
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QUOTE (Phits @ Dec 13 2017, 08:22 PM) *
It seems that you're out of practice. I believe the correct spelling is marshmallows.

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I was talking about electronic dance music producers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshmello


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post Dec 13 2017, 08:27 PM
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QUOTE (Rick @ Dec 13 2017, 10:05 PM) *
Oh stop already! He's not a pocket passer. If he was, he wouldn't be the guy we've already grown to love.

It's a contact sport and sometimes these things happen.

I think my point at this particular spot in the conversation may have been lost a little. I wasn't lamenting the nature of his ways. I was defending it.


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post Dec 13 2017, 08:29 PM
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QUOTE (md717 @ Dec 14 2017, 02:25 AM) *
I was talking about electronic dance music producers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshmello

That's a hell of a save! Only those who have been married an eternity to a good woman can come up with saves like that, rabbit in hat!


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