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nephillymike
post Dec 10 2017, 06:35 PM
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12 yards per carry just ain't good enough around here!
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post Dec 11 2017, 06:38 AM
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QUOTE (nephillymike @ Dec 10 2017, 07:35 PM) *
12 yards per carry just ain't good enough around here!

I know, I have to really wonder about the decisions either not running the ball or not running Ajayi more. The guy is a beast. Blount was sluggish yesterday not hitting holes. Why the hell won't Pedersen run Ajayi more???

This is the one major thing that concerns me about Pedey. He has the Andy feel where he'll get into the big game and screw it up because of crap like this.
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post Dec 11 2017, 11:14 AM
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Maybe they don't like Ajayi's attitude and so feel a need to keep the # of reps competitive.

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I know, I have to really wonder about the decisions either not running the ball or not running Ajayi more. The guy is a beast. Blount was sluggish yesterday not hitting holes. Why the hell won't Pedersen run Ajayi more???

This is the one major thing that concerns me about Pedey. He has the Andy feel where he'll get into the big game and screw it up because of crap like this.

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post Dec 11 2017, 11:22 AM
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There was no reason for the Eagles to be so pass heavy yesterday.

I don't think the Eagles ever trailed by more than 1 TD. When Ajayi did get carries, he was productive. What really stunned me is that when Foles came in, there was plenty of time on the clock to run a balanced attack. Instead, Pederson called 5 straight passes. The final pass run ratio was well north of 60%. There was no need for that yesterday.
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post Dec 11 2017, 12:42 PM
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Wentz unparalleled success on 3rd-and-forever is unlikely to be duplicated with Foles. The team's hopes will increasingly ride on better success on early downs - I think this will have Pedey commit, or at least - emphasize - more to the run game. He has tendencies, but he isn't stupid. Can't take those early downs for granted any more.


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post Dec 11 2017, 01:12 PM
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I hear you but teams will bring a S into the box to force Foles to beat them. Pedey almost certainly trusts Foles to do so.

T Smith deserves some props for his big game. He had 100yds.


QUOTE (Pila @ Dec 11 2017, 12:42 PM) *
Wentz unparalleled success on 3rd-and-forever is unlikely to be duplicated with Foles. The team's hopes will increasingly ride on better success on early downs - I think this will have Pedey commit, or at least - emphasize - more to the run game. He has tendencies, but he isn't stupid. Can't take those early downs for granted any more.

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post Dec 11 2017, 02:32 PM
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QUOTE (Rick @ Dec 11 2017, 06:38 AM) *
This is the one major thing that concerns me about Pedey. He has the Andy feel where he'll get into the big game and screw it up because of crap like this.


It almost seems at times like he gets caught up in the moment when we're having success and forgets we have a running game. It isn't a hopeless habit like with Andy. However, there's no excuse to throw Foles right in there and have him pass 5 times right away.


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post Dec 11 2017, 05:23 PM
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Foles is a QB. He throws the ball. The success of our running game is predicated on the QB being able to successfully pass the ball. If you don't trust your QB to do that you should find another one.


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post Dec 11 2017, 06:07 PM
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Only on an Eagles fan site could find fans saying "sometimes he forgets about the running game" about a team that is 2nd in rushing attempts in the entire NFL.


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post Dec 11 2017, 06:42 PM
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Anyone have the stats for the first half of games. The Eagles have been able to run the ball late due to big leads.

QUOTE (Reality Fan @ Dec 11 2017, 06:07 PM) *
Only on an Eagles fan site could find fans saying "sometimes he forgets about the running game" about a team that is 2nd in rushing attempts in the entire NFL.

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post Dec 11 2017, 07:02 PM
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QUOTE (Reality Fan @ Dec 11 2017, 07:07 PM) *
Only on an Eagles fan site could find fans saying "sometimes he forgets about the running game" about a team that is 2nd in rushing attempts in the entire NFL.


Only a hopeless Reid-apologist could continue to argue after almost two decades what almost every other fan seems to understand has some basic merit to it - that Reid passed way too goddam much, and his protege' has the same tendencies, though not as bad.

We saw it again yesterday, in the game overall, and most notably immediately after being forced to give the ball to his backup, down by 1 point in a huge road game. It's real, we aren't all just making this stuff up.

*Also, this year because of our success we happen to be running more overall plays than everyone else in the league, and Wentz scrambles more than almost any other QB (as in, called pass plays). So simple volume is cherry-picking stats - but yeah.....


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post Dec 11 2017, 08:31 PM
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QUOTE (Joegrane @ Dec 11 2017, 01:12 PM) *
I hear you but teams will bring a S into the box to force Foles to beat them. Pedey almost certainly trusts Foles to do so.

T Smith deserves some props for his big game. He had 100yds.

It seemed that he had way more targets this week due to coverage. Maybe we were trying to exploit a perceived weakness or Jeffery was their focus since Ertz was out. I'm still not a fan of T Smith -->off-season upgrade needed IMO.


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post Dec 11 2017, 09:27 PM
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QUOTE (Reality Fan @ Dec 12 2017, 12:07 AM) *
Only on an Eagles fan site could find fans saying "sometimes he forgets about the running game" about a team that is 2nd in rushing attempts in the entire NFL.


You do know the meaning of the word sometimes? Yesterday was one of those instances.
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post Dec 12 2017, 05:54 AM
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QUOTE (Joegrane @ Dec 11 2017, 12:14 PM) *
Maybe they don't like Ajayi's attitude and so feel a need to keep the # of reps competitive.

What attitude? The one that was reported by like one person and the attitude nobody else has heard anything about since?

And yeah, makes sense to punish him because, well, you know, he's doing such a horrible job running the ball...

SMH...
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post Dec 12 2017, 10:00 AM
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QUOTE (The Franchise @ Dec 11 2017, 07:02 PM) *
Only a hopeless Reid-apologist could continue to argue after almost two decades what almost every other fan seems to understand has some basic merit to it - that Reid passed way too goddam much, and his protege' has the same tendencies, though not as bad.

We saw it again yesterday, in the game overall, and most notably immediately after being forced to give the ball to his backup, down by 1 point in a huge road game. It's real, we aren't all just making this stuff up.

*Also, this year because of our success we happen to be running more overall plays than everyone else in the league, and Wentz scrambles more than almost any other QB (as in, called pass plays). So simple volume is cherry-picking stats - but yeah.....



lol...I love it....the facts say your are wrong but what are facts......the only team that runs the ball more is the Jags but pointing out that FAct is silly to the Reid hater. How anyone not an idiot could argue in the face of that is stunning. But lets look further into it.....the Eagles are ranked 26th...yes 26th in pass play percentage.....mind you earlier in the year they had 2 games where they barely ran the ball so that skewed the numbers even more for all you "they have big leads and run the ball more" folks. Now onto the other stupidity....they pass more in the first half.......they are situationally ranked 24th for rass/run in the first half of games.

How is that for cherry picking stats? The difference is one of us actually looks at facts and numbers and the other relies on bullshit.

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/passing-play-pct
https://www.sharpfootballstats.com/situatio...tios--off-.html

And Wentz is actually 4th among QBs in rushing attempts and only averages 2 more a game than Kirk Cousins who does not run at all so you can pocket that silliness as well. Hell, Alex Smith only has 11 more attempts than Wentz.

I know, facts suck.

I can understand not agreeing with his use of his RB personnel although, at 11-2 it seems silly, but saying he does not run the ball enough?
That is just plain stupid.

So, yeah....only in Philly.


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