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- Zero   How good has Wentz been playing?   Nov 5 2017, 08:12 PM
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> How good has Wentz been playing?
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post Nov 6 2017, 03:21 PM
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Interesting, thanks. I did not know anything about the religious or philosophical views of Pedey or Reich.

Pila, Christianity encourages honesty and fairness. (That doesn't mean it will always happen since we are also all imperfect, and at times, sinners.) So I try to give you my honest opinion regardless of an individual's socio-political or religious views. If the Raiders' O Linemen play well, I'll give them props for that. If they act like Commie-inspired Left Coast idiots, I'll say that too.

The Christian view is that we are all beloved children of one Father-God, so must treat each other as beloved brothers and sisters. Maybe some of that Christian world-view has rubbed off on the team and so they have more of a caring, family environment. I don't know. I bet Pastor Lusk does.

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“There’s something significantly special about this team,” says Rev. Dr. Herb Lusk, who played running back for the Philadelphia Eagles for three seasons beginning in 1976. “I believe they have a divine connection- I really do.”

Once an Eagle always an Eagle, Rev. Lusk has served as team chaplain for the past 15 years, leading team pre-game prayers and Bible study.

Lusk says this team is lead by the faithful from Coach Doug Peterson, who he says “never misses Bible study,” to Quarterback Carson Wentz, who has been open about his Christian faith. B

But Lusk says this team is different, because the entire team seems driven by a higher purpose.

“You’ve got a guy like Chris Long who donated his salary to public education and who raised over a million dollars for water wells in Africa,” says Lusk, “and the offense coordinator- Frank Reich- he is a theologian with a Masters in Divinity.”
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Pila
post Nov 6 2017, 06:10 PM
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QUOTE (Joegrane @ Nov 6 2017, 09:21 PM) *
Interesting, thanks. I did not know anything about the religious or philosophical views of Pedey or Reich.

Pila, Christianity encourages honesty and fairness. (That doesn't mean it will always happen since we are also all imperfect, and at times, sinners.) So I try to give you my honest opinion regardless of an individual's socio-political or religious views. If the Raiders' O Linemen play well, I'll give them props for that. If they act like Commie-inspired Left Coast idiots, I'll say that too.

The Christian view is that we are all beloved children of one Father-God, so must treat each other as beloved brothers and sisters. Maybe some of that Christian world-view has rubbed off on the team and so they have more of a caring, family environment. I don't know. I bet Pastor Lusk does.


Joe, the virtues of kindness and brotherhood are not unique to Christianity. In fact, it precedes all religion.

But I'm not interested in debating Christianity for the millionth time. I'll say this - inspiration is where one finds it. So, im not concerned with each's source. So long as they don't start proselytizing out of every pore like some insufferable door-knocking idiot, I say go at it some more.

And finally, I was just goofing on you a little. I didn't honestly think you were minimizing Pedey because he might have been atheist. Lol


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QUOTE (Pila @ Nov 6 2017, 07:10 PM) *
Joe, the virtues of kindness and brotherhood are not unique to Christianity. In fact, it precedes all religion.

But I'm not interested in debating Christianity for the millionth time. I'll say this - inspiration is where one finds it. So, im not concerned with each's source. So long as they don't start proselytizing out of every pore like some insufferable door-knocking idiot, I say go at it some more.

And finally, I was just goofing on you a little. I didn't honestly think you were minimizing Pedey because he might have been atheist. Lol


Well said Pila, thank you.

FWIW- I still visit church to listen to my mother sing in her choir, there's something wonderful about the music and how it relaxes you. That's about as far as I'm willing to take it though even if i can recognize the positive's in having a community aspect to a delegation, I can do just as well with the volunteer work I do and the people I meet through it.
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Hey man,

Just wanted to take this to private chat to understand your motives...

From what I can gather you're some kind of PC culture antifa fascist who thinks steinbeck is some kind of monster because he authored some of the most amazing speeches and writings of our time. You do understand that the entire world disagrees with your assessment of this man right? which leads me to believe you're into some alt-facts conspiracy crap.

Under the same logic, I'm guessing you think charles murry is a racist and he should have been shouted off the speakers podium at the liberal arts college? That safe spaces are needed?

I think you're incredibly mis informed and probably meagerly educated. Your attacks do on me do little to sway me, I've known for a while as a fact that the board merely tolerates you and your defensive attitude towards anything you disagree with. Learn to open yourself up to learning something new and defending your positions with tact instead of flailing like a child calling people names and trying to demonize someone who's greatness proceeds you.

Try to lighten up, everything is open for discussion as long as it's civil on the public forum, stop trying to ruin good conversation with your insistent bullshit. Reply to my response with some character and intelligence and you might be surprised what you get from it.

Just a suggestion, at the end of the day you've gotta live with yourself. I won't pity a martyr because I know that they like their job.


Messages like this are why you get nothing but trolling responses from me. This guy has a better command of the English language than you.





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