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post Nov 5 2017, 08:12 PM
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This from RF's favorite writer:
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Carson Wentz. He's now beyond having one of the best seasons ever by an Eagles quarterback or a young quarterback. He's having an all-time season. He's at the point where when the Eagles go three-and-out or have an ugly series, you're just surprised. Wentz threw four more touchdowns Sunday without a turnover. He's now got 23 touchdowns and five interceptions through nine games, and that puts him on pace for 40 TDs and nine interceptions. The only QBs in NFL history to do that in a season are Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers. That's the level Wentz is playing at. That's where he's at in his career. That's who Wentz is. He's 24. He's started 25 games in his life. He was backing up Chase Daniel 15 months ago. And he's literally having one of the greatest seasons in NFL history. Howie Roseman could have drafted 100 Danny Watkins and it wouldn't matter. Finding a way to get this kid into an Eagles uniform makes up for everything.
Ray Didininger says if we were talking about Brady or Rogers we'd just take it for granted that these guys are two of the best to ever play the position, but this is a player who's only in the middle of his second year.

Wow! Just WOW! Getting FAs to come here is going to be very easy.
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post Nov 5 2017, 08:43 PM
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QUOTE (Zero @ Nov 5 2017, 08:12 PM) *
This from RF's favorite writer:[indent][/indent]Ray Didininger says if we were talking about Brady or Rogers we'd just take it for granted that these guys are two of the best to ever play the position, but this is a player who's only in the middle of his second year.

Wow! Just WOW! Getting FAs to come here is going to be very easy.


One negative, I am betting Schwartz gets a HC job this offseason, unless maybe Howie makes him the highest paid DC in the league.
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post Nov 6 2017, 05:56 AM
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QUOTE (Birdwatcher @ Nov 5 2017, 09:43 PM) *
One negative, I am betting Schwartz gets a HC job this offseason, unless maybe Howie makes him the highest paid DC in the league.

I'm not thinking about next year, I'm just enjoying the ride this season...
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post Nov 6 2017, 10:08 AM
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Even if schwartz moves on other quality coaches will want to come here.

I'm more concerned about the loss of Reich. I bet Pedey is not the mastermind of the 0. I see pedey as more of a glue guy HC. That's not intended to be an insult.

He did not come in with a lot of experience as a coach. He was brought here to recreate that "family" environment that Lurie wants. He's certainly done that and more.

Cap off to Pedey and his coaching staff. The HC or even DC do not get those CBs to perform at the level they've been playing at. There are position coaches who are doing a great job too.


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One negative, I am betting Schwartz gets a HC job this offseason, unless maybe Howie makes him the highest paid DC in the league.
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post Nov 6 2017, 11:37 AM
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QUOTE (Joegrane @ Nov 6 2017, 04:08 PM) *
Even if schwartz moves on other quality coaches will want to come here.

I'm more concerned about the loss of Reich. I bet Pedey is not the mastermind of the 0. I see pedey as more of a glue guy HC. That's not intended to be an insult.

He did not come in with a lot of experience as a coach. He was brought here to recreate that "family" environment that Lurie wants. He's certainly done that and more.

Cap off to Pedey and his coaching staff. The HC or even DC do not get those CBs to perform at the level they've been playing at. There are position coaches who are doing a great job too.

There's nothing at all to suggest that Pedey isn't the main architect of the offense. I'm sure Reich contributes to it. Even Wentz has done if the stories are true. I'm sure most of the scheming around the NFL are calloborations.

Your persistence to minimize Pedey's coaching is odd. Is he atheist or something as equally terrible?


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post Nov 6 2017, 12:22 PM
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QUOTE (Pila @ Nov 6 2017, 12:37 PM) *
Is he atheist or something as equally terrible?

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“There’s something significantly special about this team,” says Rev. Dr. Herb Lusk, who played running back for the Philadelphia Eagles for three seasons beginning in 1976. “I believe they have a divine connection- I really do.”

Once an Eagle always an Eagle, Rev. Lusk has served as team chaplain for the past 15 years, leading team pre-game prayers and Bible study.

Lusk says this team is lead by the faithful from Coach Doug Peterson, who he says “never misses Bible study,” to Quarterback Carson Wentz, who has been open about his Christian faith. B

But Lusk says this team is different, because the entire team seems driven by a higher purpose.

“You’ve got a guy like Chris Long who donated his salary to public education and who raised over a million dollars for water wells in Africa,” says Lusk, “and the offense coordinator- Frank Reich- he is a theologian with a Masters in Divinity.”
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post Nov 6 2017, 12:27 PM
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QUOTE (Zero @ Nov 6 2017, 06:22 PM) *
laugh.gif Read this, Monsignor:
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Ah, that explains Joe's propensity for crediting Reich over Pedey. Reich clearly being the super Christian! A Theologian!


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post Nov 6 2017, 02:04 PM
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QUOTE (Pila @ Nov 6 2017, 12:37 PM) *
There's nothing at all to suggest that Pedey isn't the main architect of the offense. I'm sure Reich contributes to it. Even Wentz has done if the stories are true. I'm sure most of the scheming around the NFL are calloborations.

Your persistence to minimize Pedey's coaching is odd. Is he atheist or something as equally terrible?


What would be the problem if he was an atheist? It would just prove that he exercises the use of reason and intellectual honesty.


Anyway, Pedy is our HC and shwartz should be paid whatever it takes to keep him. We can't afford to patch holes anymore, If I was howie I'd take a paycut in order to keep the coaches together.
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post Nov 6 2017, 02:07 PM
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QUOTE (Zero @ Nov 6 2017, 01:22 PM) *
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Dumbest thing I've learned... Why would a football team need to have a chaplain? As if a god would care about a game.

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post Nov 6 2017, 02:56 PM
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Pila, you are absolutely right. I don't know that Pedey is not the mastermind. I've mostly just assumed it since this offense has less of a West Coast feel to it than I expected. I've assumed that this was due to the influence of Reich.

Furthermore I just never was impressed by Pedey's coaching resume. The only thing I was confident about him was his ability to recreate much of Andy R's "culture," one that would be player-friendly and especially QB-friendly.

Maybe I'm wrong, but until I get more solid evidence to the contrary, I'm going to assume Pedey is more of a glue-guy HC working with quality coordinators and a quality set of position coaches.

Again I don't mean that as an insult to the young HC. I definitely admire him and what they have accomplished with him! It is actually a compliment regarding his "emotional intelligence." If you were the GM and your options for HC were limited to such an inexperienced guy, wouldn't you design it so that the young HC would be surrounded by veteran coordinators and position coaches? Wouldn't you want a young HC with the emotional intelligence to rely on those coaches appropriately?

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There's nothing at all to suggest that Pedey isn't the main architect of the offense. I'm sure Reich contributes to it. Even Wentz has done if the stories are true. I'm sure most of the scheming around the NFL are calloborations.

Your persistence to minimize Pedey's coaching is odd. Is he atheist or something as equally terrible?


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QUOTE (Joegrane @ Nov 6 2017, 04:08 PM) *
Even if schwartz moves on other quality coaches will want to come here.

I'm more concerned about the loss of Reich. I bet Pedey is not the mastermind of the 0. I see pedey as more of a glue guy HC. That's not intended to be an insult.

He did not come in with a lot of experience as a coach. He was brought here to recreate that "family" environment that Lurie wants. He's certainly done that and more.

Cap off to Pedey and his coaching staff. The HC or even DC do not get those CBs to perform at the level they've been playing at. There are position coaches who are doing a great job too.
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post Nov 6 2017, 03:21 PM
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I agree, I doubt that God cares about the final score. The chaplain is not there for the W-L record as much as it is for the individual players who want to participate in the chaplain's activities. I certainly believe God wants each player and coach to be the best athlete, best team mate and and best human being in the community that each of them can be.

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Dumbest thing I've learned... Why would a football team need to have a chaplain? As if a god would care about a game.

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Interesting, thanks. I did not know anything about the religious or philosophical views of Pedey or Reich.

Pila, Christianity encourages honesty and fairness. (That doesn't mean it will always happen since we are also all imperfect, and at times, sinners.) So I try to give you my honest opinion regardless of an individual's socio-political or religious views. If the Raiders' O Linemen play well, I'll give them props for that. If they act like Commie-inspired Left Coast idiots, I'll say that too.

The Christian view is that we are all beloved children of one Father-God, so must treat each other as beloved brothers and sisters. Maybe some of that Christian world-view has rubbed off on the team and so they have more of a caring, family environment. I don't know. I bet Pastor Lusk does.

QUOTE (Zero @ Nov 6 2017, 12:22 PM) *
laugh.gif Read this, Monsignor:
laugh.gif <--- Linc


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“There’s something significantly special about this team,” says Rev. Dr. Herb Lusk, who played running back for the Philadelphia Eagles for three seasons beginning in 1976. “I believe they have a divine connection- I really do.”

Once an Eagle always an Eagle, Rev. Lusk has served as team chaplain for the past 15 years, leading team pre-game prayers and Bible study.

Lusk says this team is lead by the faithful from Coach Doug Peterson, who he says “never misses Bible study,” to Quarterback Carson Wentz, who has been open about his Christian faith. B

But Lusk says this team is different, because the entire team seems driven by a higher purpose.

“You’ve got a guy like Chris Long who donated his salary to public education and who raised over a million dollars for water wells in Africa,” says Lusk, “and the offense coordinator- Frank Reich- he is a theologian with a Masters in Divinity.”
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post Nov 6 2017, 03:22 PM
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Interesting, thanks. I did not know anything about the religious or philosophical views of Pedey or Reich.

Pila, Christianity encourages honesty and fairness. (That doesn't mean it will always happen since we are also imperfect, and at times, sinners.) So I try to give you my honest opinion regardless of an individual's socio-political or religious views. If the Raiders' O Linemen play well, I'll give them props for that. If they act like Commie-inspired Left Coast idiots, I'll say that too.

The Christian view is that we are all beloved children of one Father-God, so we must treat each other as beloved brothers and sisters. Maybe some of that Christian world-view has rubbed off on the team and so they have more of a caring, family environment. I don't know. I bet Pastor Lusk does.

QUOTE (Zero @ Nov 6 2017, 12:22 PM) *
laugh.gif Read this, Monsignor:
laugh.gif <--- Linc


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“There’s something significantly special about this team,” says Rev. Dr. Herb Lusk, who played running back for the Philadelphia Eagles for three seasons beginning in 1976. “I believe they have a divine connection- I really do.”

Once an Eagle always an Eagle, Rev. Lusk has served as team chaplain for the past 15 years, leading team pre-game prayers and Bible study.

Lusk says this team is lead by the faithful from Coach Doug Peterson, who he says “never misses Bible study,” to Quarterback Carson Wentz, who has been open about his Christian faith. B

But Lusk says this team is different, because the entire team seems driven by a higher purpose.

“You’ve got a guy like Chris Long who donated his salary to public education and who raised over a million dollars for water wells in Africa,” says Lusk, “and the offense coordinator- Frank Reich- he is a theologian with a Masters in Divinity.”
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post Nov 6 2017, 04:06 PM
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QUOTE (Birdman420 @ Nov 6 2017, 03:07 PM) *
Dumbest thing I've learned... Why would a football team need to have a chaplain? As if a god would care about a game.

There's a large number of Christians in the NFL and my guess is the players want a chaplain.
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QUOTE (Birdman420 @ Nov 6 2017, 03:07 PM) *
Dumbest thing I've learned... Why would a football team need to have a chaplain? As if a god would care about a game.


I believe every professional sports franchise in the country has one, along with pretty much every institution you can think of - military units, law enforcement, colleges/universities, etc. But perhaps they're all wrong about the value and unity a chaplain can provide, and maybe they'd be better off listening to you and having a Team Atheist show up pre-game to give a motivational speech bitching about how the big nothing void awaits us all in this purposeless universe..... rolleyes.gif


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