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- HobbEs   Birds trade for a RB   Oct 31 2017, 08:33 AM
- - JeeQ   Howie Roseman is a monster this year... I knew he ...   Oct 31 2017, 08:43 AM
- - dsc5085   Holy s***, we got Jay Ajayi!   Oct 31 2017, 08:59 AM
- - CT_Eagle   Does this move make the Eagles better at RB? I ad...   Oct 31 2017, 09:11 AM
- - Zero   Jay Train went to the Pro Bowl last year as an alt...   Oct 31 2017, 09:33 AM
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- - Zero   And the fourth they gave up wasn't the highest...   Oct 31 2017, 09:54 AM
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- - Zero   QUOTE Ajayi has dealt with a knee injury this year...   Oct 31 2017, 10:16 AM
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- - Pila   QUOTE (HobbEs @ Oct 31 2017, 02:33 PM) Fr...   Oct 31 2017, 01:26 PM
- - Eyrie   I like the move. Ajayi is faster to the line than...   Oct 31 2017, 05:42 PM
|- - Joegrane   RF, this article explains well my point of view on...   Nov 2 2017, 10:00 AM
|- - Reality Fan   QUOTE (Joegrane @ Nov 2 2017, 11:00 AM) R...   Nov 3 2017, 07:31 AM
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|- - Joegrane   Never said he was stellar. I don't think Ajay...   Nov 3 2017, 01:25 PM
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I like the move.

Ajayi is faster to the line than Blount and a better pass protector. I'm slightly concerned by the Miami coach's comment about trying to hit the home run every time but hopefully that won't be an issue in a fresh environment.


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RF, this article explains well my point of view on Ajayi.

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Before the trade, Philadelphia regularly tipped their hand with their RB personnel. LeGarrette Blount’s on the field? Carson’s probably going to be under center, and expect a power blocking concept—Blount struggles to pass protect, and go out for routes, so we can assume the ball’s staying on the ground. Wendell Smallwood? Much more likely a zone run. Corey Clement? It’s a pass.

But with Ajayi on the field, Philadelphia can better conceal their true intentions. Not only is he the most dynamic runner in the stable, but he’s the best pass protector, and is just as good of receiver as Smallwood/Clement. Ajayi has the potential, not only to bring the running attack up a few notches, but add greater depth to the play-action attack and better assist Halapoulivaati Vaitai on the edge.

Off of the film, Jay Ajayi gives Philadelphia the zone threat they’ve lacked, as well as a multi-dimensional [RB] that can confuse defenses and disguise play design. But, as the introduction noted, Blount has found his rhythm—a devastating one at that—and he shouldn’t be interrupted.
https://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2017/11...sy-football-nfl


However, I think the last sentence is overstated. The presence of J Peters can't be ignored in Blount's success. I don't expect the power running game to be as effective without JP.

Also some of the effectiveness of CW in the Red Zone that the writer pointed out later in the article has been due to the threat of a power run with Blount and J. Peters.

Finally I think Smallwood, when healthy, will continue to get some touches as the "change of pace" RB mentioned in the article. He has the most straight-line speed of the group and is also versatile.

We'll see if the Eagles can continue to be as effective without JP. It does not seem likely, but the addition of a more versatile RB should help somewhat.
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QUOTE (Joegrane @ Nov 2 2017, 11:00 AM) *
RF, this article explains well my point of view on Ajayi.



However, I think the last sentence is overstated. The presence of J Peters can't be ignored in Blount's success. I don't expect the power running game to be as effective without JP.

Also some of the effectiveness of CW in the Red Zone that the writer pointed out later in the article has been due to the threat of a power run with Blount and J. Peters.

Finally I think Smallwood, when healthy, will continue to get some touches as the "change of pace" RB mentioned in the article. He has the most straight-line speed of the group and is also versatile.

We'll see if the Eagles can continue to be as effective without JP. It does not seem likely, but the addition of a more versatile RB should help somewhat.


Yoiu need to vet your sources joe. The guy is a like a 12 year old student who calls himslef a cookie connoisseur. The numbers just do not bear out his/your fantasy about Ajai. I will agree he may be a slightly better pass catching option but he has not been a stellar blocker. I can't believe a head coach can come out and rip a guy for his pass blocking and that extraordinary move is ignored.

Smallwood is a dog. He can't stay healthy.


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QUOTE (Reality Fan @ Nov 3 2017, 08:31 AM) *
Yoiu need to vet your sources joe. The guy is a like a 12 year old student who calls himslef a cookie connoisseur. The numbers just do not bear out his/your fantasy about Ajai. I will agree he may be a slightly better pass catching option but he has not been a stellar blocker. I can't believe a head coach can come out and rip a guy for his pass blocking and that extraordinary move is ignored.

Maybe we should vet the coach too. Ajayi had 50 catches his senior year in college, went to the Dolphins, played sparingly his rookie year and had 27 last year. Maybe it's the player, maybe not. The Eagles were a complete disaster when Pederson took over, the Dolphins are a complete disaster now.
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Never said he was stellar. I don't think Ajayi will be great, just better than what we have, especially for our new situation without J Peters.

I fear what will happen is Ajayi wll be mediocre and everyone will say he stinks and Blount should get more carries. However I expect Blount to be even worse than Ajayi in yards per attempt and number of carries where there was no gain or a loss.

QUOTE (Reality Fan @ Nov 3 2017, 07:31 AM) *
Yoiu need to vet your sources joe. The guy is a like a 12 year old student who calls himslef a cookie connoisseur. The numbers just do not bear out his/your fantasy about Ajai. I will agree he may be a slightly better pass catching option but he has not been a stellar blocker. I can't believe a head coach can come out and rip a guy for his pass blocking and that extraordinary move is ignored.

Smallwood is a dog. He can't stay healthy.

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