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post Jun 13 2007, 04:08 PM
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Sorry guys ... fucked up again. So what's new, huh? So solly!
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post Jun 16 2007, 12:36 PM
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Deleted. I recommend deleting this whole thread. It seems to be negativrely impacting discussion.
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post Jun 16 2007, 01:17 PM
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One thing that perhaps you're missing is that everyone is free to only read posts from posters they enjoy or appreciate on some level. People who read Vman's stuff and reply do so of their own choosing. All that is required is that he simply be ignored by any poster who finds him so annoying that they just can't help but call him names. We even have a feature that aids in that effort, I know you're aware of that.

Even when another poster quotes him and his words show up no your screen, YOU make the conscious choice to actually read what was said. I suggest that if it upsets you to that degree, you simply make the opposite choice and flip past it. Other posters read things and make a conscious choice to insult and call names. We just ask that a different choice be made in those instances.

This admin gig is really easy, let me tell you. We have you angry at us for our attempt to enforce the rules and VMan leaving b/c we didn't enforce the rules fast enough. Fabulous.

I'd be interested if you could point me to the three times VMan said he posts things he himself doesn't believe. I think I missed those. Not that I don't believe you or that it will make any difference to the topic at hand, but I'd like to see those.


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post Jun 16 2007, 01:34 PM
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Do you have a search tool that would help me do that? I'd like something that would allow me to scan for strongs of words from a particular poster. I don't have time to read thru every post of his.

I don't know if you keep logs of posts that are reported. But I did report the first time he said this, And that was less than 4 months ago.
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post Jun 16 2007, 01:48 PM
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QUOTE(bullwinkle @ Jun 16 2007, 02:34 PM) [snapback]116876[/snapback]

Do you have a search tool that would help me do that? I'd like something that would allow me to scan for strongs of words from a particular poster. I don't have time to read thru every post of his.

I don't know if you keep logs of posts that are reported. But I did report the first time he said this, And that was less than 4 months ago.


Yes. At the bottom of each forum there is a search box. You'll also find it at the bottom of each thread, and at the top of the main board (before a forum is selected) which you can use to search all forums.


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post Jun 16 2007, 02:12 PM
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I cannot get his search to work. And google isn't allowed to crawl wingheads.

I did report the first post he said that within the past 4 months. And he said it again when asked about why he was posting stuff from Cobb sometime in the past 2-3 weeks. And there was a time in between those two events where he said it again.

If you will notice, I stayed out of the thread VM reported last night. I got involved in this one because of these comments by him. "Hey 'goo, I haven't responded to your attack posts because you're old as dirt. You've used up your passes. Back off or strap your constipated borderline illiterate Third Reich sympathizing ass in. Got it?" Yet he is the victim here. I don't get it?
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post Jun 16 2007, 04:07 PM
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QUOTE(WatchDog @ Jun 16 2007, 01:17 PM) [snapback]116875[/snapback]

One thing that perhaps you're missing is that everyone is free to only read posts from posters they enjoy or appreciate on some level. People who read Vman's stuff and reply do so of their own choosing. All that is required is that he simply be ignored by any poster who finds him so annoying that they just can't help but call him names. We even have a feature that aids in that effort, I know you're aware of that.

This statement is often true, however, there are times when something is posted that reflects badly on the board if it is allowed to fester in the open like a rank old pile of shit. The recent "Mormon" thread was an example of a time where silence by the rest of the board would have appeared to be tacit acceptance. That would be unacceptable.


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post Jun 16 2007, 04:42 PM
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True.

Is it at all possible that Vman's post re: Mormons was an unfortunate choice of words which was interpreted in the light of how the reader feels about Vman? Just asking, don't really want to re-open that can of worms.


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post Jun 16 2007, 05:07 PM
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QUOTE(bullwinkle @ Jun 16 2007, 05:36 PM) [snapback]116874[/snapback]

XSV said thgat 5 warnings will result in a ban.

Not to speak for our fearless leader, but I believe what he said was "5 warnings will earn you a temporary suspension."



QUOTE(bullwinkle @ Jun 16 2007, 06:34 PM) [snapback]116876[/snapback]

Do you have a search tool that would help me do that? I'd like something that would allow me to scan for strongs of words from a particular poster. I don't have time to read thru every post of his.

I don't know if you keep logs of posts that are reported. But I did report the first time he said this, And that was less than 4 months ago.

To be fair, AF has admitted he does the same thing. As discussed, sometimes our "extremist" brethren stretch their "opinions" to further their particular agenda. For all his rhetorical efforts as a Matt McCan't booster, we all know AF is more than saavy enough to recognize the truth that Matt simply McCan't do the job.

I honestly hope VMan comes back. I hope Dutch comes home too. I dig all our guys here. Even Buddy'sScrot has value as comedy relief.

Let's all take a deep breath and not take this stuff so seriously.

It is after all, entertainment.


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post Jun 16 2007, 05:22 PM
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I think is all really a shame. This board was fun because of the different opinions etc.. so I really hope Vman comes back. But honestly I can understand how he feels because I have been the target of a lot of attacks also.. and it really made posting not as fun for me.

I just got tired of trying to post topics to debate and getting stupid off topic replies from a few users like "YOUR AN ASSHOLE" or YOUR A TWIT" etc. It has got to the point where I don't even really post on this board much anymore.. which is probably what a few of the people posting that garbage wanted so there you go. I guess mission accomplished. I just float by once in awhile now and read a few things and move on... it's just hard to want to try to contribute a topic for discussion when you some people are allowed to reply off-topic and just resort to name calling out of nowhere.

Lastly, i really don't agree with the whole baiting excuse to name calling. If you don't agree with a persons topic you can always just not post in it or reply to it and debate the topic and try to prove the poster wrong.. theres no reason to act immature and call people names. Now when i'm called all sorts of names.. isn't that baiting? Whats more baiting than being called a scumbag or asshole? Well, i still dont resort to name calling and that sort of bs even though im being "baited" by people calling me out like that. I just try to reply on topic and debate.. because thats what its supposed to be about.. thats the fun of message boards. Its just really a shame that theres a handful of people that don't understand that.

DROCK was right above when he says that this is supposed to be entertainment.. debating can be fun and even hilarious.. but all this name calling takes the fun out of everything.. to the point where some of us dont even feel like posting and others just have left the board. There really has to be a no tolerance rule on that type of thing. Otherwise, eventually theres just gonna be like 15 people left on this board who all agree on everything.. what the hell fun is that.


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post Jun 16 2007, 05:30 PM
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QUOTE(Buddysballs @ Jun 16 2007, 10:22 PM) [snapback]116888[/snapback]

I just got tired of trying to post topics to debate and getting stupid off topic replies from a few users like "YOUR AN ASSHOLE" or YOUR A TWIT" etc.

You want to start a topic about football, and back your opinions with more than Madden ratings. Then some might actually engage you in the "debate" you seek.

But, if you continue to come with "Carson Palmer is better than McNabb, just look at the Madden ratings" and expect a reasonable discourse....you're either kidding yourself, dumb as a stump or 11 years old.

I honestly can't make up my mind which of those 3 choices I'd bet on.



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post Jun 16 2007, 05:40 PM
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QUOTE(D Rock @ Jun 16 2007, 06:30 PM) [snapback]116889[/snapback]

You want to start a topic about football, and back your opinions with more than Madden ratings. Then some might actually engage you in the "debate" you seek.

But, if you continue to come with "Carson Palmer is better than McNabb, just look at the Madden ratings" and expect a reasonable discourse....you're either kidding yourself, dumb as a stump or 11 years old.

I honestly can't make up my mind which of those 3 choices I'd bet on.


Madden ratings are very accurate and even NFL players themselves discuss them often.. I think your insistence on not understanding the validity of ratings from a game that sells millions of copies each year is just some type of generational gap thing. But even though I don't agree with you, im not going to call you as dumb as a stump or 11 years old.. i'll let you mature users resort to that type of behavior. Yawn.. more name calling.. dude you win.. i give up.


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post Jun 16 2007, 06:00 PM
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I wonder if either of you (DRock or Buddysballs) can recognize how frustrating this type of exchange is from an administrative point of view?

I mean -- how fine a line do we need to draw here?

From a technical English comprehension point of view, DRock didn't call any names. He offered three options only two of which were insulting, leaving "just kidding yourself" as an option. "Not sure which he'd bet on," yada yada.

He cleverly (tongue-in-cheek, there) left himself an out while still being able to throw around "dumb as a stump" and "11 years old."

Meanwhile Buddysballs fails to let it roll and points out the "namecalling."

Anybody else want the hall monitor job? I'm getting pretty tired of it, frankly.

For crying out loud.


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post Jun 17 2007, 11:16 AM
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QUOTE(WatchDog @ Jun 16 2007, 07:00 PM) [snapback]116891[/snapback]
Anybody else want the hall monitor job?

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post Jun 17 2007, 11:32 AM
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Moose here's the search tool you asked for...

You can filter by name and key phrase. Its found in the upper right corent of the page, where it says 'Search'.
http://wingheads.com/index.php?act=Search&f=3

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ot to speak for our fearless leader, but I believe what he said was "5 warnings will earn you a temporary suspension."

Not the leader here, and far from fearless. Also, I was incorrect. Each infraction lasts for 60 days. After 60 days, the infraction expires. If you accumulate 10 infraction demerits, then your account will be suspended until your infractions drop below 10. Some infractions may cost more than 1 demerit.

I think you'll see an increase on how many infractions are handed out, as a result of recent events.




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post Jun 21 2007, 03:06 PM
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QUOTE(xsv @ Jun 17 2007, 04:32 PM) [snapback]116935[/snapback]

Moose here's the search tool you asked for...

You can filter by name and key phrase. Its found in the upper right corent of the page, where it says 'Search'.
http://wingheads.com/index.php?act=Search&f=3
Not the leader here, and far from fearless. Also, I was incorrect. Each infraction lasts for 60 days. After 60 days, the infraction expires. If you accumulate 10 infraction demerits, then your account will be suspended until your infractions drop below 10. Some infractions may cost more than 1 demerit.

I think you'll see an increase on how many infractions are handed out, as a result of recent events.

60 days? Mine hasn't changed in months. I've been "warned" twice. Both occassions were at least 6 months ago. My "indicator" still lists those 2 "warnings." If subsiquent "warnings" were sent my way, I was never made aware of them.



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