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- nephillymike   I need to take a closer look at Fultz   Jun 17 2017, 08:38 PM
- - D Rock   You're tripping. Evan Turner was a "conso...   Jun 18 2017, 12:18 AM
- - D Rock   Watch and Read   Jun 18 2017, 12:26 AM
|- - nephillymike   QUOTE (D Rock @ Jun 18 2017, 12:26 AM) Wa...   Jun 18 2017, 08:05 AM
- - nephillymike   http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nba/333...OS:to...   Jun 18 2017, 06:08 AM
- - nephillymike   Here ya go. Historical value of going from 3 to1 ...   Jun 18 2017, 06:22 AM
- - D Rock   I'm ok with the Russell comp. The guy is all ...   Jun 18 2017, 11:31 AM
|- - nephillymike   QUOTE (D Rock @ Jun 18 2017, 11:31 AM) I...   Jun 18 2017, 01:09 PM
|- - D Rock   QUOTE (nephillymike @ Jun 18 2017, 07:09 ...   Jun 18 2017, 07:49 PM
- - nephillymike   The details of the trade are in: http://www.phill...   Jun 18 2017, 09:32 PM
|- - Joegrane   I'd prefer Top 3 protected. Celts don't ...   Jun 18 2017, 11:03 PM
|- - D Rock   QUOTE (Joegrane @ Jun 19 2017, 04:03 AM) ...   Jun 19 2017, 09:24 AM
|- - Joegrane   I hope you are right. Re "hater." I ...   Jun 19 2017, 05:05 PM
|- - D Rock   QUOTE (Joegrane @ Jun 19 2017, 11:05 PM) ...   Jun 19 2017, 05:50 PM
|- - Joegrane   "literally the best guard prospect to come ou...   Jun 19 2017, 07:10 PM
- - D Rock   Henderson is done. I think he retires due to the h...   Jun 18 2017, 10:26 PM
- - D Rock   Read   Jun 19 2017, 09:31 AM
- - Reality Fan   I don't think that people wary of the move are...   Jun 19 2017, 01:27 PM
- - Reality Fan   Now if you really want to lose your mind read this...   Jun 19 2017, 01:48 PM
- - D Rock   I read that Brookover piece, which I why I posted ...   Jun 19 2017, 03:39 PM
- - nephillymike   I like this trade. I like what we hear about Fult...   Jun 19 2017, 08:26 PM
- - D Rock   I don't think you can place "value" ...   Jun 19 2017, 10:00 PM
- - nephillymike   QUOTE (D Rock @ Jun 19 2017, 10:00 PM) I ...   Jun 19 2017, 10:13 PM
- - D Rock   QUOTE (nephillymike @ Jun 20 2017, 04:13 ...   Jun 20 2017, 12:20 AM
> I need to take a closer look at Fultz, The highlight reel shown yesterday was not impressive
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QUOTE (nephillymike @ Jun 20 2017, 04:13 AM) *
Regardless of the league or draft, it still comes down to measuring the output of the prospects drafted in each slot and coming up with a relative value table based on that output. The top heaviness of the NBA is evident in the charts versus a league like the NFL that has a flatter distribution. The concepts apply, just that the slope is much steeper in the NBA.

I'll agree with the measurable output being key, but the specific slot matters less to me. KD went after Oden. But the formulas suggest the 2nd pick has a significant drop off. My point is that it's the player, not where he was drafted that matters. If you, as a GM, feel that player a is going to provide the greatest output (to use your word) within the confines of your roster/scheme, you do what you can to get that player. Some would say that's why Celts traded down. They have, according to what I'm reading, been locked in on Tatum for 3-4 years. They know they can get him at 3. I think they could get him at 5. But whoever holds that 1 spot, is going Fultz. They just happen to have a deep back-court so....

Take a look at the Lakers. They're a shit show. And they have nothing that anyone could want. They rode the Kobe train too long. Gave away assets for what they hoped would be complementary pieces. Had to overpay for bottom level free agents. They're going to be in the lottery for another 4 years unless the Pacers are stupid enough to let P.George reach free agency in 2018, or Lebron decides to "take his talents" to tinsel town.

You can't discount the minuscule roster size that we're dealing with here, compared to every other major sport. It's a huge factor in my opinion.

Regarding Hinkie, I'm a bit surprised you're seemingly so against his philosophy. It's born of an approach based on analytics, optionality, and swinging for the fences. The nay-sayers forget, he built that roster in Houston. The man knows how to assemble a group of that can rise to the top.

I only hope his next gig is in the Western Conference.


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