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- mcnabbulous   Babin released   Nov 27 2012, 02:53 PM
- - HOUSEoPAIN   QUOTE (mcnabbulous @ Nov 27 2012, 02:53 P...   Nov 27 2012, 03:00 PM
- - BirdsWinBaby   QUOTE (mcnabbulous @ Nov 27 2012, 03:53 P...   Nov 27 2012, 03:01 PM
- - D Rock   It's on bleacher report.   Nov 27 2012, 03:06 PM
|- - BirdsWinBaby   QUOTE (D Rock @ Nov 27 2012, 04:06 PM) It...   Nov 27 2012, 03:10 PM
- - make_it_rain   Didn't see this coming, let the housecleaning ...   Nov 27 2012, 03:07 PM
- - D Rock   PFT is slippin. Still no mention there.   Nov 27 2012, 03:11 PM
- - TGryn   http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2012/11/2...se-ja...   Nov 27 2012, 03:16 PM
|- - BirdsWinBaby   Curry played well....season over... Babin expendab...   Nov 27 2012, 03:29 PM
- - TGryn   Further support for "eject button" hypot...   Nov 27 2012, 03:20 PM
- - Eyrie   Only saw the condensed version of the game, but on...   Nov 27 2012, 03:52 PM
|- - make_it_rain   QUOTE (Eyrie @ Nov 27 2012, 03:52 PM) If ...   Nov 27 2012, 04:42 PM
- - ClydeSide   QUOTE (mcnabbulous @ Nov 27 2012, 02:53 P...   Nov 27 2012, 05:21 PM
- - Bocadelphia Eagles John   See this as the first sign that Andy Reid WILL STI...   Nov 27 2012, 06:09 PM
- - Rick   Now if they would just end it and fire Reid I...   Nov 27 2012, 06:14 PM
- - nephillymike   Hmmmmmm. The underperforming money stealing DE wh...   Nov 27 2012, 07:49 PM
- - nephillymike   dupe.   Nov 27 2012, 07:51 PM
- - JaxEagle   He hasn't had a good season but it smells a li...   Nov 27 2012, 10:15 PM
|- - mcnabbulous   QUOTE (JaxEagle @ Nov 27 2012, 10:15 PM) ...   Nov 27 2012, 10:18 PM
|- - Pbfan   QUOTE (mcnabbulous @ Nov 27 2012, 11:18 P...   Nov 27 2012, 11:27 PM
|- - VICKtory   QUOTE (Pbfan @ Nov 28 2012, 12:27 AM) Thi...   Nov 27 2012, 11:33 PM
- - MistahNickells   do you let a first rank sack machine in 2011 go be...   Nov 28 2012, 12:04 AM
|- - Pbfan   I agree this thing is becoming a mess. You want t...   Nov 28 2012, 12:18 AM
|- - BirdsWinBaby   QUOTE (MistahNickells @ Nov 28 2012, 01:0...   Nov 28 2012, 10:43 AM
- - TGryn   Babin missed most of camp with a calf injury. I ha...   Nov 28 2012, 12:26 PM
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post Nov 27 2012, 02:53 PM
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Damn. Didn't see that happening mid season.
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post Nov 27 2012, 03:00 PM
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QUOTE (mcnabbulous @ Nov 27 2012, 02:53 PM) *
Damn. Didn't see that happening mid season.


When will he be back for a 3rd try? tongue.gif

Probably after he gets picked up by the Raiders and has 15 sacks next year.....


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QUOTE (mcnabbulous @ Nov 27 2012, 03:53 PM) *
Damn. Didn't see that happening mid season.


Say whaaa? Don't see this anywhere but it's huge. Link me?

Just heard it on radio. What happened?
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post Nov 27 2012, 03:06 PM
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It's on bleacher report.


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post Nov 27 2012, 03:07 PM
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Didn't see this coming, let the housecleaning begin.

On a somewhat related note, I'd like to congratulate Jason Babin on his forthcoming 2013 DPOY award.


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post Nov 27 2012, 03:10 PM
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QUOTE (D Rock @ Nov 27 2012, 04:06 PM) *
It's on bleacher report.


Thanks....babins wiki page already says it too
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post Nov 27 2012, 03:11 PM
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PFT is slippin. Still no mention there.


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post Nov 27 2012, 03:16 PM
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http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2012/11/2...se-jason-babin/

I get the feeling the team finally hit the "eject" button on the season, with DJax being IR'ed and Babin gone. Suspect there'll be more moves this week.

Wonder if 1) Babin had a run-in with one of the coaches and this was a disciplinary move?; or 2) if they have an eye on a couple of guys on other teams' practice squads and want the roster space to sign them (basically the NFL's version of MLB's Rule 5 draft), so they're jettisoning guys who won't be here next year and IR'ing guys who won't recover by week 16?

Babin's contract made him vulnerable: less than $1 million dead money to cut.


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post Nov 27 2012, 03:20 PM
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Further support for "eject button" hypothesis:
https://twitter.com/RoobCSN/statuses/273472607767105537
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post Nov 27 2012, 03:29 PM
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Curry played well....season over... Babin expendable and likely gone at seasons end anyway

He will sign with someone before Sunday
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Only saw the condensed version of the game, but one thing that really annoyed me was the lack of contain from our DEs. It happened that often against the extremely mobile Newton that the coaches had to be aware of it.

So either the coaches did nothing, or the players ignored instructions. Could this be a disciplinary move over the latter?

If it was sinply to create room to look at the younger guys (is Graham worth keeping? Can Curry play?) then Tapp has been even poorer.


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post Nov 27 2012, 04:42 PM
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QUOTE (Eyrie @ Nov 27 2012, 03:52 PM) *
If it was sinply to create room to look at the younger guys (is Graham worth keeping? Can Curry play?) then Tapp has been even poorer.


I think its mostly this, with a little bit of a statement/attitude adjustment (e.g we're not going to put up with this whiny "it's not my fault the line sucks, the fans are mean boo hoo" bullshit anymore). The team needs a complete attitude adjustment from the top down, and if that means cutting a 2011 All-Pro that was wildly mediocre in 2012, so be it.

Fwiw, Curry looked pretty solid in his debut last night. I caught a few shots of him on the sidelines, trying to get everyone worked up...he looked amped like he (gasp!) actually wanted to be out there playing to win.

The jury is obviously still out on Curry and others, but at least Curry has some damn enthusiasm as opposed to Babin, whose basically just going through the motions at this point.


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post Nov 27 2012, 05:21 PM
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QUOTE (mcnabbulous @ Nov 27 2012, 02:53 PM) *
Damn. Didn't see that happening mid season.


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See this as the first sign that Andy Reid WILL STILL be head coach next year.


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post Nov 27 2012, 06:14 PM
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Now if they would just end it and fire Reid I'd actually feel better about the rest of the season...
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post Nov 27 2012, 07:49 PM
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Hmmmmmm.

The underperforming money stealing DE who criticizes the fans gets cut.

after

the executive who decided to unleash the goons on the fans during the Dal game and whose idea it was to pump up the volume to drown out the boos was fired.

after

the executive who always pissed off the fans of this city was demoted for his eventual departure.


I don't know how McDermott's brother who was fired plays into this but maybe Lurie is a little pissed at the unfanfriendly vibes of some of his employees.
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dupe.
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He hasn't had a good season but it smells a little like the Castillo firing to me. Scapegoats
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post Nov 27 2012, 10:18 PM
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QUOTE (JaxEagle @ Nov 27 2012, 10:15 PM) *
He hasn't had a good season but it smells a little like the Castillo firing to me. Scapegoats

He's better off and we are better off. I don't think that is it.
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QUOTE (mcnabbulous @ Nov 27 2012, 11:18 PM) *
He's better off and we are better off. I don't think that is it.


This guy almost broke the alltime sack record last year, and we cut him for modest production this year??? Does Andy see who else is on defense?! There's other players to cut before babin! This is insane!
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QUOTE (Pbfan @ Nov 28 2012, 12:27 AM) *
This guy almost broke the alltime sack record last year, and we cut him for modest production this year??? Does Andy see who else is on defense?! There's other players to cut before babin! This is insane!


In the offseason sure, but right now DL is the only place where we actually have enough depth to replace him
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post Nov 28 2012, 12:04 AM
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do you let a first rank sack machine in 2011 go because of a broken wide nine defense that never will work?? I think its a bad move
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post Nov 28 2012, 12:18 AM
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I agree this thing is becoming a mess. You want to give young guys some playing time? Then bench babin, but don't release him! There's def more to this story than meets the eye.
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post Nov 28 2012, 10:43 AM
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QUOTE (MistahNickells @ Nov 28 2012, 01:04 AM) *
do you let a first rank sack machine in 2011 go because of a broken wide nine defense that never will work?? I think its a bad move


Not a bad move. Babin was only effective cuz of the wide 9. It's no more broken now than it ever was. How well did having the sack machine work last year? One million sacks and eight wins?

The plan was to allow babin to disregard the run, get tons of sacks of at least pressure QBs into bad decisions that would help the big name corners shut down any passing attack. It failed. The secondary sucks, babin sucked so bad he was already losing PT and this defense is a laughing stock

The experiment was over. Babin was gone at years end either way
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post Nov 28 2012, 12:26 PM
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Babin missed most of camp with a calf injury. I have to wonder if its affected him all year - for a speed rusher like him, losing even a little quickness can make a big difference.

Babin out, Curry in. That's what it comes down to.


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