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- nephillymike   Sixers Playoffs, Up 3-1 and coming home   Apr 21 2018, 07:08 PM
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- - nephillymike   Gotta love it. They now are the second highest pr...   Apr 24 2018, 09:59 PM
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- - nephillymike   Gotta love the pass of the bell by Redick to coach...   Apr 24 2018, 10:18 PM
- - nephillymike   I'm ok with Paul George. We can agree on this...   Apr 30 2018, 07:45 PM
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It wasn't pretty, but the fact that despite 27 turnovers and poor 3pt shooting,they came out with a road victory where they got screwed all game by the refs.

Impressive.
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QUOTE (nephillymike @ Apr 21 2018, 07:08 PM) *
It wasn't pretty, but the fact that despite 27 turnovers and poor 3pt shooting,they came out with a road victory where they got screwed all game by the refs.

Impressive.


Sometimes they look like a 70 win team. They aren't very consistent, but fast and fun. It should be a great 5-7 years for us.


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post Apr 24 2018, 09:59 PM
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Gotta love it.

They now are the second highest probability of winning the title behind only Houston.
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Where are all those folks that hated Colangelo?......those folks that whined that he only got the job because of dad?..lolololol

He has done a hell of a job to get them here....You can give Hinkie the credit for Simmons if you like and that is fair but getting Bellinelli, Reddick and Ilyasova back has been pure genius.

He has had a frickin great year


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post Apr 24 2018, 10:18 PM
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Gotta love the pass of the bell by Redick to coach Brett Brown, who was then showered with chocolate milk. Great team atmosphere.

From a coaches perspective, they are enjoyable to watch. Team ball, great passing, great off ball movement, excellent rebounding and solid D. The reduction in turnovers will come one day.
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QUOTE (Reality Fan @ Apr 25 2018, 04:07 AM) *
Where are all those folks that hated Colangelo?......those folks that whined that he only got the job because of dad?..lolololol

He has done a hell of a job to get them here....You can give Hinkie the credit for Simmons if you like and that is fair but getting Bellinelli, Reddick and Ilyasova back has been pure genius.

He has had a frickin great year

Aw. How cute. Some love for daddy’s boy Colangelo.

He got Redick by throwing $23 mil at him. Can he keep him for 2-3 more years at $10 per?

Marco and Ersan wanted to come here (as will just about any free agent on the market next year). They each had better offers from other teams on the table. And lets not forget that it was Colangelo who sent Ersan away for a 2nd round pick he sold for $$$ in the first place.

He’s still playing with money Hinkie put on the table. I’ll give him credit for not screwing it up (yet) but his real test will come this off season.

He just might ruin this roster by going all in on Lebron.


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QUOTE (D Rock @ Apr 27 2018, 10:44 AM) *
He just might ruin this roster by going all in on Lebron.


A Sixers fan asked me a while ago why I didn't want LeBron to come here.

I told him that the NBA's integrity has already been destroyed for the most part, where you basically have to lose on purpose in order to build a contender. Or you can throw money at a former league MVP, stick him on your 70-win squad, and get a cheap ring that way. Now that we've gone through the misery of tanking, I want to watch this young and exciting team grow together and win multiple titles for us over the next decade. Even if getting LJ 100% guaranteed a ring next year, I would still say no. He can keep his ass in Cleveland.




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QUOTE (The Franchise @ Apr 27 2018, 04:32 PM) *
A Sixers fan asked me a while ago why I didn't want LeBron to come here.

I told him that the NBA's integrity has already been destroyed for the most part, where you basically have to lose on purpose in order to build a contender. Or you can throw money at a former league MVP, stick him on your 70-win squad, and get a cheap ring that way. Now that we've gone through the misery of tanking, I want to watch this young and exciting team grow together and win multiple titles for us over the next decade. Even if getting LJ 100% guaranteed a ring next year, I would still say no. He can keep his ass in Cleveland.

For once, we agree.


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I tend to agree as well. I'm not a LJ hater. I respect his talent and guts, but would prefer to win by beating him.

QUOTE (D Rock @ Apr 28 2018, 09:48 AM) *
For once, we agree.


[quote name='The Franchise' date='Apr 27 2018, 10:32 AM' post='313806'] A Sixers fan asked me a while ago why I didn't want LeBron to come here.

I told him that the NBA's integrity has already been destroyed for the most part, where you basically have to lose on purpose in order to build a contender. Or you can throw money at a former league MVP, stick him on your 70-win squad, and get a cheap ring that way. Now that we've gone through the misery of tanking, I want to watch this young and exciting team grow together and win multiple titles for us over the next decade. Even if getting LJ 100% guaranteed a ring next year, I would still say no. He can keep his ass in Cleveland. /quote]
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QUOTE (The Franchise @ Apr 27 2018, 10:32 AM) *
A Sixers fan asked me a while ago why I didn't want LeBron to come here.

I told him that the NBA's integrity has already been destroyed for the most part, where you basically have to lose on purpose in order to build a contender. Or you can throw money at a former league MVP, stick him on your 70-win squad, and get a cheap ring that way. Now that we've gone through the misery of tanking, I want to watch this young and exciting team grow together and win multiple titles for us over the next decade. Even if getting LJ 100% guaranteed a ring next year, I would still say no. He can keep his ass in Cleveland.

I find this thinking interesting, and agree that it is the most popular approach proposed by most fans.

All throughout the losing, the plan was to get draft assets, save money and buy mega star free agents to put us over the top. LBJ is the grand prize.

Now, that has changed because we think this team is good enough and are now getting high and mighty about not wanting LBJ.

We need to reconcile how it was a great thing to get TO and Kearse, fabulous to get Lee, Halliday, Pence and Oswalt, yet it is below us to get the FA that will have a bigger impact than any of those others, in a sport that is structured to do just that in order to win.

Getting a mega free agent was always part of the process.

Don't change the recipe just yet.

I enjoy watching this team play immensely, the style that they play. Most of it is a coach's dream, save the turnovers. However, in this age of the NBA, we don't have enough to win titles. It seems so now, and we could even possibly get to the finals, but they need to keep up with the Joneses to win a few.

To sustain our shot at the title, we need a FA like LeBron. That was the plan. That was why we lost so much.

I wish it could be the other way, but I don't think it is.

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Because we needed them to help us win a title. Pitchers pitch once every 5 days. Skill players in the NFL play less than half the game, and are one of 11 guys on each side. Hitters are one of 8 in a lineup.

And how many rings did they win combined? You could argue that the '4 aces' directly led us to the 5 years of misery that the Phillies are just now getting out from under. We went to a Super Bowl, lost, and next year the locker room was destroyed. The championships we've won, in '08 and '18, have been driven from players drafted and developed by those franchises, with supplemental help from FA's.

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yet it is below us to get the FA that will have a bigger impact than any of those others, in a sport that is structured to do just that in order to win.


The NBA is structured so that if you want to contend, you have to tank. In tanking, you get one of the top picks the following year. Often you find superstars in those picks who will help you win a title. We have 2 current superstars and a 3rd who isn't playing much. We don't need to break the bank to bring over a mercenary to get us a cheap ring, for a city and team he doesn't give a flying fuck about. Brett Brown deserves to lead these guys to a ring, and I hope we beat LJ's bitch ass in the playoffs on the way to one, this year or next.


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QUOTE (nephillymike @ Apr 28 2018, 09:35 PM) *
I find this thinking interesting, and agree that it is the most popular approach proposed by most fans.

All throughout the losing, the plan was to get draft assets, save money and buy mega star free agents to put us over the top. LBJ is the grand prize.

Now, that has changed because we think this team is good enough and are now getting high and mighty about not wanting LBJ.

We need to reconcile how it was a great thing to get TO and Kearse, fabulous to get Lee, Halliday, Pence and Oswalt, yet it is below us to get the FA that will have a bigger impact than any of those others, in a sport that is structured to do just that in order to win.

Getting a mega free agent was always part of the process.

Don't change the recipe just yet.

I enjoy watching this team play immensely, the style that they play. Most of it is a coach's dream, save the turnovers. However, in this age of the NBA, we don't have enough to win titles. It seems so now, and we could even possibly get to the finals, but they need to keep up with the Joneses to win a few.

To sustain our shot at the title, we need a FA like LeBron. That was the plan. That was why we lost so much.

I wish it could be the other way, but I don't think it is.

There’s no “high & mighty” about not wanting LBJ on our Sixers. It’s purely about fit, both on and off the court. Of course The Process held being able to attract top tier free agents to philly, but not just ANY top tier free agent. You have to bring in the guy(s) who will complement the roster, not alter it.

On the court: would you be want to take the ball out of Simmons’ hands? That’s what LBJ on the roster would do. Would you be want to see Joel spend even MORE time floating around the perimeter? That’s what LBJ would do. He did that to both Love and Bosh who were excellent post players until playing with LBJ when they morphed into shooting nothing but corner 3s. And who’s defense comes off the floor to accommodate the “plays defense when he wants to” LBJ? RoCo?

Lebron simply doesn’t fit the roster, and we’d have to move some good young pieces to see it make any sense. Who goes? By contrast, we could bring in a Klay Thompson, or PG13 type free agent who would allow us to keep Simmons on the ball and complement our offense with more perimeter shooting AND excellent perimeter defense.

Off the court: LBJ sucks the air out of every locker room. It’ll no longer be about “us” but instead be about “him.” Sure, he could say all the right things about being a team guy, but expecting anybody of his stature to change his MO at this point in his career and defer to pups is more than a bit naive. So too, he has a career history of meddling in the front office with his opinions and roster demands. He personally built both versions (pre and post trade deadline) of that shit show in Cleveland. He pushed them to pay 35 million annually to Smith for multiple years. He pushed them to trade 1st round picks for Korver. That it’s not worked is nothing to him. He just moves along to the next roster and leaves the dumpster fire behind where the Cavs will be hamstrung for years by roster decisions he mandated. God forbid he doesn’t like a move made. He essentially bolted Miami because his wittle feelings were hurt that they got rid of Miller. That one move by Riley sent him into a hissy fit and pity pout party until he bolted at first chance.

I’ll admit, I am somewhat of a LBJ hater. I hated on MJ too. It’s in my nature to hate the top dog and root for the underdogs. But being purely objective, there is no justification for bringing in LBJ beyond “he’s the best on the planet.” If you take an honest look at how he fits from every angle, it’s OBVIOUS to me that bringing him to philly would both end and ruin the process.

I would be very confident in betting on this roster being blown up and back to tanking within 2 years of his arrival.

I’m all for bringing in a top tier, max type free agent. But he’s gotta be the right top tier, max level free agent. LBJ is not that. For us, at least.


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QUOTE (D Rock @ Apr 27 2018, 10:44 AM) *
Aw. How cute. Some love for daddy’s boy Colangelo.

He got Redick by throwing $23 mil at him. Can he keep him for 2-3 more years at $10 per?

Marco and Ersan wanted to come here (as will just about any free agent on the market next year). They each had better offers from other teams on the table. And lets not forget that it was Colangelo who sent Ersan away for a 2nd round pick he sold for $$$ in the first place.

He’s still playing with money Hinkie put on the table. I’ll give him credit for not screwing it up (yet) but his real test will come this off season.

He just might ruin this roster by going all in on Lebron.


Wow...ok...just say nothing he does will ever be enough for you to give him an ounce of credit. That is what you are saying. He sent Ersan away because he wanted to keep Dario on the court more. He got a 2nd and the option to swap another 2nd all to recoup something for an expiring contract. It is funny how you give him no credit for Reddick who has been an incredible success. Because he spent 23 million on him that makes it less of a great pick up?

Bizarre. I guess Hinkie is such a brilliant mind that no other team has welcomed him with open arms.


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QUOTE (nephillymike @ Apr 28 2018, 04:35 PM) *
I find this thinking interesting, and agree that it is the most popular approach proposed by most fans.

All throughout the losing, the plan was to get draft assets, save money and buy mega star free agents to put us over the top. LBJ is the grand prize.

Now, that has changed because we think this team is good enough and are now getting high and mighty about not wanting LBJ.

We need to reconcile how it was a great thing to get TO and Kearse, fabulous to get Lee, Halliday, Pence and Oswalt, yet it is below us to get the FA that will have a bigger impact than any of those others, in a sport that is structured to do just that in order to win.

Getting a mega free agent was always part of the process.

Don't change the recipe just yet.

I enjoy watching this team play immensely, the style that they play. Most of it is a coach's dream, save the turnovers. However, in this age of the NBA, we don't have enough to win titles. It seems so now, and we could even possibly get to the finals, but they need to keep up with the Joneses to win a few.

To sustain our shot at the title, we need a FA like LeBron. That was the plan. That was why we lost so much.

I wish it could be the other way, but I don't think it is.



I am with you. I am not a Lebron fan but the "process" was all about exactly this scenario. What I don't get is that Lebron would send Covington tot he bench which why I don't think he will be signed here. They knew LBJ was going to be in play and still gave RC big money. I think the part about LBJ sucking the air out of a team has merit. He would demand his style and personnel be adopted.

I have no clue what their next step is but they are way ahead of where I thought they would be.


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I'm ok with Paul George.

We can agree on this.

While his production will be below LBJ, his is a better fit.

Most of the true processors won't even take him, which I don't understand.
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A complete inexcusable fucking embarrassment.

And their three best offensive players didn't play.

Their rookie was fabulous.

Our's couldn't get in the game.

We have a ways to go to match this team when it is at full strength.

Tonight, we were embarrassed by a team that was three men down.
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QUOTE (nephillymike @ Apr 30 2018, 09:44 PM) *
A complete inexcusable fucking embarrassment.

And their three best offensive players didn't play.

Their rookie was fabulous.

Our's couldn't get in the game.

We have a ways to go to match this team when it is at full strength.

Tonight, we were embarrassed by a team that was three men down.


This is a young team with absolutely no playoff experience beyond playing a completely inferior Miami team. This was bound to happen, and it's a good thing. Way too many missed free throws, their 3's weren't hitting, and a few mental mistakes. I bet they come back with a vengeance and win Game 2.

In order to grow into a contender, they have to play other contenders. And that will result in bad games right now.


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If you shoot that poorly, you will lose in the playoffs, period. This was not our game. They will improve. As for LBJ...

Sign him and PG13. Have them come off the bench and dominate every team's 2nd string we play!!! They'll go for that, right? biggrin.gif


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QUOTE (nephillymike @ May 1 2018, 03:44 AM) *
A complete inexcusable fucking embarrassment.

And their three best offensive players didn't play.

Their rookie was fabulous.

Our's couldn't get in the game.

We have a ways to go to match this team when it is at full strength.

Tonight, we were embarrassed by a team that was three men down.

HAHAHAHAHA

Over react much?

They had the shooting night of their lives, or maybe they’re really 80% career shooters from distance and just hid it all these years.

We had an uncharacteristically poor shooting night, or maybe career 40% shooters were hiding that they are in actuality 18%ers. It happens.

If you think they’re going to continue to shoot 80% and we’re going to continue to shoot 18%, then I can understand why you’re tossing such a tizzy. Personally, I expect those numbers to adjust to their norms over the course of a 7 game series.

Our D was poor. RoCo was fucking terrible, and Belinelli not much better.

But for as bad as we played, we were within 8 with 5 mins to go.

Clean up the defense, and count on better shooting (the looks were there). We win game 2 and we’ve done our job wrestling home court away from them by splitting the 1st two.

Breath, man. Breath.


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QUOTE (Reality Fan @ Apr 30 2018, 08:34 PM) *
Wow...ok...just say nothing he does will ever be enough for you to give him an ounce of credit. That is what you are saying. He sent Ersan away because he wanted to keep Dario on the court more. He got a 2nd and the option to swap another 2nd all to recoup something for an expiring contract. It is funny how you give him no credit for Reddick who has been an incredible success. Because he spent 23 million on him that makes it less of a great pick up?

Bizarre. I guess Hinkie is such a brilliant mind that no other team has welcomed him with open arms.

It’s fucking hilarious when you pretend to talk hoops...

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I have no clue...

That much is made more clear with each post.


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QUOTE (D Rock @ May 1 2018, 09:08 AM) *
HAHAHAHAHA

Over react much?

They had the shooting night of their lives, or maybe they’re really 80% career shooters from distance and just hid it all these years.

We had an uncharacteristically poor shooting night, or maybe career 40% shooters were hiding that they are in actuality 18%ers. It happens.

If you think they’re going to continue to shoot 80% and we’re going to continue to shoot 18%, then I can understand why you’re tossing such a tizzy. Personally, I expect those numbers to adjust to their norms over the course of a 7 game series.

Our D was poor. RoCo was fucking terrible, and Belinelli not much better.

But for as bad as we played, we were within 8 with 5 mins to go.

Clean up the defense, and count on better shooting (the looks were there). We win game 2 and we’ve done our job wrestling home court away from them by splitting the 1st two.

Breath, man. Breath.

I thought our shots from three were heavily contested while they had wide open looks because of the defenses. Some getting two seconds to line it up!

Rocco was lost out there. From a Celtics coaching standpoint, I like that they're doubling Simmons to prevent lane penetration and overplaying the three, giving us Embiid one on one. They figured out that we are less lethal with him getting his 30, than with Simmons penetrating and our sharpshooters getting open looks. We need to counteract that by doing back door cuts on the overplay and by hitting whatever open three we get. Also would help if our star PG could hit a 5-10 foot jumper, but not everyone can shoot as well as a CYO eight grade B team player.

Yeah, I know I over reacted but it pissed me off.
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QUOTE (nephillymike @ May 2 2018, 12:53 AM) *
I thought our shots from three were heavily contested while they had wide open looks because of the defenses. Some getting two seconds to line it up!

Rocco was lost out there. From a Celtics coaching standpoint, I like that they're doubling Simmons to prevent lane penetration and overplaying the three, giving us Embiid one on one. They figured out that we are less lethal with him getting his 30, than with Simmons penetrating and our sharpshooters getting open looks. We need to counteract that by doing back door cuts on the overplay and by hitting whatever open three we get. Also would help if our star PG could hit a 5-10 foot jumper, but not everyone can shoot as well as a CYO eight grade B team player.

Yeah, I know I over reacted but it pissed me off.

Derek Bodner did a nice piece in The Athletic.

Apparently, 24 of their 26 three point attempts came with the nearest defender 4 feet or more away from the shooter. Of those 24, they missed 20. If they shoot a mere 30%, they win it running away, Tatums 28 or naw.

Like I said, the looks were there. We wont see too many nights of RoCo, Saric, and Illyasova combining for an 0 for 11.

The bigger issue for me was RoCo. Totally ineffective in every aspect of the game.


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QUOTE (D Rock @ May 1 2018, 10:12 AM) *
It’s fucking hilarious when you pretend to talk hoops...

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No..what is hilarious is you being incapable of saying you were wrong or just shutting up and eating your mistakes.

And I will happily put my hoops career against yours any day of the week...whether it is coaching or playing.

I bet you have a hundred mirrors in your house so you can keep telling yourself you are always right.

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I thought our shots from three were heavily contested while they had wide open looks because of the defenses. Some getting two seconds to line it up!

Rocco was lost out there. From a Celtics coaching standpoint, I like that they're doubling Simmons to prevent lane penetration and overplaying the three, giving us Embiid one on one. They figured out that we are less lethal with him getting his 30, than with Simmons penetrating and our sharpshooters getting open looks. We need to counteract that by doing back door cuts on the overplay and by hitting whatever open three we get. Also would help if our star PG could hit a 5-10 foot jumper, but not everyone can shoot as well as a CYO eight grade B team player.

Yeah, I know I over reacted but it pissed me off.


They looked like a rusty team....it happens when you have to wait while the other teams is still in playing rhythm.

They had so many open looks vs. what they had from Miami. Game 2 will be very different.


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QUOTE (D Rock @ May 1 2018, 10:14 AM) *
That much is made more clear with each post.


uh huh...tell me again how he just had to throw money at the guy who is close to the MVP of the team for the 2nd half of the season...please...I want to hear how silly it was to pay Reddick. Or maybe how he only signed Ily and the Italian stallion because they begged him to. Please...share some more of your hoops wisdom...I am begging you.


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Jesus Krist you’re dense.

I love JJ and was jumping on the table for us to sign him at this point LAST year.

Colangelo doesn’t get credit however because it was a dumbass deal. JJ said he’d have preferred a 3-4 year deal for $30-40 mill. But Daddy’s Boy decided to give him 1 for 23. FUCKING BRILLIANT.

That you’re too dumb to realize the difference is completely expected and predictable.

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QUOTE (D Rock @ May 2 2018, 02:24 PM) *
Jesus Krist you’re dense.

I love JJ and was jumping on the table for us to sign him at this point LAST year.

Colangelo doesn’t get credit however because it was a dumbass deal. JJ said he’d have preferred a 3-4 year deal for $30-40 mill. But Daddy’s Boy decided to give him 1 for 23. FUCKING BRILLIANT.

That you’re too dumb to realize the difference is completely expected and predictable.

Now run along, slappy. The grown ups are talking.


I am too dumb? Do you even read what you write? He would have settled for 30-40 million? You are amazing and beyond clueless if you believe that. If he said tha please show us where. He was not signing anywhere cheap. I suggest you read the media from that time. While Reddick said he always wanted to sign with the Sixers he first said he wanted to return to his team. It is called player speak and easily recognized by anyone with a brain not in their rectum. That may be the most ridiculous thing I have read here. Too funny....maybe he has said he will sign here for $20 next year too. And you know basketball? a scrub makes 10 million per.

I love it...you never fail to drop dumb post that live in infamy.....Reddick would have signed for 10 million per...hahahahaha...watch his spot on ESPN if I recall and then tell me again how he said that.

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QUOTE (D Rock @ May 2 2018, 02:24 PM) *
Jesus Krist you€™re dense.

I love JJ and was jumping on the table for us to sign him at this point LAST year.

Colangelo doesn€™t get credit however because it was a dumbass deal. JJ said he€™d have preferred a 3-4 year deal for $30-40 mill. But Daddy€™s Boy decided to give him 1 for 23. FUCKING BRILLIANT.

That you€™re too dumb to realize the difference is completely expected and predictable.

Now run along, slappy. The grown ups are talking.



and to add a little more to it...

http://nba.nbcsports.com/2017/07/19/j-j-re...n-philadelphia/

Now go tell yourself what a genius you are...someone has to.


I am sure you will post the source of the 3-4 years for 30-40 million soon...

I guess you were not bright enough in your vast NBA knowledge to realize that he would have been a fool to say it because it would make the guy he wants to pay him next year look silly....great logic....too funny.


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QUOTE (D Rock @ May 2 2018, 01:24 PM) *
Jesus Krist you’re dense.

I love JJ and was jumping on the table for us to sign him at this point LAST year.

Colangelo doesn’t get credit however because it was a dumbass deal. JJ said he’d have preferred a 3-4 year deal for $30-40 mill. But Daddy’s Boy decided to give him 1 for 23. FUCKING BRILLIANT.

That you’re too dumb to realize the difference is completely expected and predictable.

Now run along, slappy. The grown ups are talking.

Re-up Redick for three more years for $ 17 mill and call it even. Shit, with time value of money, he'll be ahead of the game.

I'm in. Anyone?
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Hey D,

You promised me that Lakers pick would be a lot better than 10.

I'm OK if at ten, my boy from Nova is still there. Otherwise, you did me wrong.
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Re-up Redick for three more years for $ 17 mill and call it even. Shit, with time value of money, he'll be ahead of the game.

I'm in. Anyone?


I am in...though according to D and his vast NBA knowledge Reddick only wants 10 mill per.....lol


He has been terrific as a player and a leader.


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I miss these kinds of threads, getting along after winning a SB is so boring. laugh.gif

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QUOTE (The Franchise @ May 3 2018, 11:19 AM) *
I miss these kinds of threads, getting along after winning a SB is so boring. laugh.gif

O where art thou mcnabbulous?

I didn’t miss it. But apparently I missed Reddick saying he would play for much less than any person remotely familiar with nba predicted. Who knew? Not only that....according to our local nba genius he went public to embarrass the guy who signed him to a one year by telling everyone that he would have settled for 10 per.

Funny stuff. It would not be so bad if he didn’t have to be a dick about it.


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QUOTE (Reality Fan @ May 3 2018, 09:46 PM) *
I didn’t miss it. But apparently I missed Reddick saying he would play for much less than any person remotely familiar with nba predicted. Who knew? Not only that....according to our local nba genius he went public to embarrass the guy who signed him to a one year by telling everyone that he would have settled for 10 per.

Funny stuff. It would not be so bad if he didn’t have to be a dick about it.


I hear ya.

Speaking of Reddick, kudos to him for keeping this one respectable. Covington too.


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Havlicek stole the ball
Havlicek stole the ball
Havlicek stole the ball

Once in 1965

And three fucking times tonight!

The good news is that we now know we aren't close to Boston and need to gear up this offseason. Illusions of grandeur on hold for now. Need a busy offseason.

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Brett Brown completely lost Game 2. You can argue he lost this one as well.

They played so well leading up to the playoffs and in Round 1 that we jumped the gun on where this team is at. It sucks, but we have a very bright future. All I want is for them to take Game 4 in Philly for the fans.


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Some observations that are disturbing....

1. TJ played better at running the offense AGAIN. That is worriesome although there were a few reported sightings of some kind of jumpshot from Simmons.
2. How do they throw errant passes after so much emphasis on cutting down on TOs
3. How do you throw away a ball so badly on your final possession with the game on the line. it is one thing to throw it away to a cutting player but to lose it setting up your offense? That is coaching.
4. Brown has not had a good series at all. He is clearly overmatched in this one....can he learn? We will see.

Sad to see how far away we are....they are without their 2 top players in Irving and Hayward and we have to watch Tatum rip it up as Fultz sits on the bench mail ordering himself a new jumper.

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QUOTE (Reality Fan @ May 5 2018, 11:19 PM) *
Some observations that are disturbing....

1. TJ played better at running the offense AGAIN. That is worriesome although there were a few reported sightings of some kind of jumpshot from Simmons.
2. How do they throw errant passes after so much emphasis on cutting down on TOs
3. How do you throw away a ball so badly on your final possession with the game on the line. it is one thing to throw it away to a cutting player but to lose it setting up your offense? That is coaching.
4. Brown has not had a good series at all. He is clearly overmatched in this one....can he learn? We will see.

Sad to see how far away we are....they are without their 2 top players in Irving and Hayward and we have to watch Tatum rip it up as Fultz sits on the bench mail ordering himself a new jumper.

Sad day.


And they have three extra 1st round picks in the next few years compared to our one extra first. Sure, we have 7 extra 2nd round picks, but in the NBA, they are such longshots that their value is minimal.

https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/team

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QUOTE (nephillymike @ May 6 2018, 07:04 AM) *
And they have three extra 1st round picks in the next few years compared to our one extra first. Sure, we have 7 extra 2nd round picks, but in the NBA, they are such longshots that their value is minimal.

https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/team

We better get busy signing a top tier free agent.


Well...at least they can sign Reddick cheap because he only wants "3-4 years for 30-40 million" hahahahaha

2nds are nearly worthless because, as you said, they are complete longshots.. It is very concerning right now. Is the difference in the 2 teams talent or coaching?


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QUOTE (Reality Fan @ May 6 2018, 08:14 AM) *
Well...at least they can sign Reddick cheap because he only wants "3-4 years for 30-40 million" hahahahaha

2nds are nearly worthless because, as you said, they are complete longshots.. It is very concerning right now. Is the difference in the 2 teams talent or coaching?

Oh , yeah, um, they got the better coach too.

Stevens owned Nova too. He can flat out coach.

When you take away a team's best two players, and they are up 3-0 in a series they were underdogs in, then yes, a lot of it is coaching.
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Jesus H Christ guys, they won more games this year than they have since making it to the Finals. They doubled their win total from last year, including the first round.

It's been a very disappointing series. Brett Brown has been completely outmatched, and this young team is showing their lack of experience. Game 2 was the worst display of coaching I've ever seen in my life. If Brown can't learn how to coach meaningful games, we eventually get rid of him. But we have a very bright future with our talent. Give it a rest.



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QUOTE (The Franchise @ May 6 2018, 03:44 PM) *
Jesus H Christ guys, they won more games this year than they have since making it to the Finals. They doubled their win total from last year, including the first round.

It's been a very disappointing series. Brett Brown has been completely outmatched, and this young team is showing their lack of experience. Game 2 was the worst display of coaching I've ever seen in my life. If Brown can't learn how to coach meaningful games, we eventually get rid of him. But we have a very bright future with our talent. Give it a rest.

Let me say, if we lose this series, the season is still an unquestioned success.

However, the talent and asset gap between us and the Celtics is clear and that is a huge concern. Before this series, I was not aware of that. They are in our division and that is the team we need to beat.

The process is about winning it all. Project how this team will surpass the Celtics. Talk me down from the ledge on that one.

I expected they'd beat a hobbled BOS team in six, with the expectation we would need seasoning to beat them at full strength. Seeing this against their hobbled team with Tatum tearing it up, I need too rethink it..
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The process is about winning it all. Project how this team will surpass the Celtics. Talk me down from the ledge on that one.

I expected they'd beat a hobbled BOS team in six, with the expectation we would need seasoning to beat them at full strength. Seeing this against their hobbled team with Tatum tearing it up, I need too rethink it..


I'd love to talk you down from the ledge, but I don't have to. Go back to Nov/Dec 2016 on this very board, and read some of the threads about Pedey, the Eagles, etc. Including your own comments and posts.

It's in our blood as Philly fans to be lunatics. That's what happens when you win a title once a generation on average. Cocksucking, smug fanbases like Boston, who have had 10 championship parades since 2000, don't have the same problems.

The Sixers are going to win a title within a couple years. We will cut down on the stupid turnovers, and Simmons will learn how to shoot.


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QUOTE (The Franchise @ May 6 2018, 05:12 PM) *
I'd love to talk you down from the ledge, but I don't have to. Go back to Nov/Dec 2016 on this very board, and read some of the threads about Pedey, the Eagles, etc. Including your own comments and posts.

It's in our blood as Philly fans to be lunatics. That's what happens when you win a title once a generation on average. Cocksucking, smug fanbases like Boston, who have had 10 championship parades since 2000, don't have the same problems.

The Sixers are going to win a title within a couple years. We will cut down on the stupid turnovers, and Simmons will learn how to shoot.

I don’t disagree that there is talent here but the coaching now has me concerned. How he could not get these kids focused worries me.


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QUOTE (The Franchise @ May 6 2018, 04:12 PM) *
I'd love to talk you down from the ledge, but I don't have to. Go back to Nov/Dec 2016 on this very board, and read some of the threads about Pedey, the Eagles, etc. Including your own comments and posts.

It's in our blood as Philly fans to be lunatics. That's what happens when you win a title once a generation on average. Cocksucking, smug fanbases like Boston, who have had 10 championship parades since 2000, don't have the same problems.

The Sixers are going to win a title within a couple years. We will cut down on the stupid turnovers, and Simmons will learn how to shoot.

It seems that the NBA is tougher to break into the top two than the NFL. Also, it seems that BOS did it the anti- process way, which is a kick in the groin.
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I don’t disagree that there is talent here but the coaching now has me concerned. How he could not get these kids focused worries me.


I agree completely - I was simply saying that a year and a half ago many of us were ready to write off Pederson.


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It seems that the NBA is tougher to break into the top two than the NFL. Also, it seems that BOS did it the anti- process way, which is a kick in the groin.


I am curious how those who don't want Lebron here feel? I am not being a smart ass, I wonder if it has changed seeing the need for someone who relishes finishing a game. I can understand the argument for growing these kids organically and that they will get better with age but Boston is also young, talented and they have the draft capital to get even better.

Has anyone changed their mind? I am still not sure who the best FA pickup will be myself so there is no judgement on my side, just curiosity.


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QUOTE (Reality Fan @ May 7 2018, 07:32 AM) *
I am curious how those who don't want Lebron here feel? I am not being a smart ass, I wonder if it has changed seeing the need for someone who relishes finishing a game. I can understand the argument for growing these kids organically and that they will get better with age but Boston is also young, talented and they have the draft capital to get even better.

Has anyone changed their mind? I am still not sure who the best FA pickup will be myself so there is no judgement on my side, just curiosity.


No Lebron.

The problem is coaching, and stupid mistakes by a young team (also attributed to coaching). Stevens has looked like a genius on the other side.


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