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Posted by: vermeilman Jun 14 2007, 07:31 PM

Thanks for demonstrating once again that your rules mean nothing.

Frankly I'm sick of the personal attacks and your willingness to allow them to continue.

Have fun.

I won't be back.

Posted by: mike quick Jun 14 2007, 08:04 PM

QUOTE(vermeilman @ Jun 14 2007, 07:31 PM) [snapback]116698[/snapback]

Thanks for demonstrating once again that your rules mean nothing.

Frankly I'm sick of the personal attacks and your willingness to allow them to continue.

Have fun.

I won't be back.
You can borrow some of my wife's Tampax if you need some. laugh.gif

Posted by: GQSmooth Jun 14 2007, 08:09 PM

Vman with his panties in a bunch...IPB Image

Posted by: mike quick Jun 14 2007, 08:11 PM

I'd hit it!

Posted by: JaxEagle Jun 14 2007, 09:27 PM

QUOTE(mike quick @ Jun 14 2007, 09:11 PM) [snapback]116703[/snapback]

I'd hit it!


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Posted by: Buddysballs Jun 14 2007, 09:29 PM

QUOTE(vermeilman @ Jun 14 2007, 08:31 PM) [snapback]116698[/snapback]

Thanks for demonstrating once again that your rules mean nothing.

Frankly I'm sick of the personal attacks and your willingness to allow them to continue.

Have fun.

I won't be back.


This has been going on here for a long time.. even though the faq of the board says personal attacks will not be tolerated.. they let it happen over and over. Its a shame if the mods not doing their job forces you away because your posts are one of the main reasons I come to this board so let me know what board you'll be on.

Posted by: mike quick Jun 14 2007, 09:33 PM

Awesome. 2 birds with one stone!

Posted by: JaxEagle Jun 14 2007, 09:38 PM

QUOTE(vermeilman @ Jun 14 2007, 08:31 PM) [snapback]116698[/snapback]

Thanks for demonstrating once again that your rules mean nothing.

Frankly I'm sick of the personal attacks and your willingness to allow them to continue.

Have fun.

I won't be back.



Vman, I don't agree with everything the mods do either, but it is a tough job being a moderator. Sometimes you'll agree, sometimes you won't. Fact is, your slip of the tongue incited these episodes. I knew what you meant as did some others, but you still need to admit that it was a fuck up rather than trying to defend it. If you take credit for mistakes people give you a lot more slack.

Plus, you don't really want to leave the board - it's a great place!

Peace bra...

QUOTE(mike quick @ Jun 14 2007, 10:33 PM) [snapback]116708[/snapback]

Awesome. 2 birds with one stone!


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Posted by: mike quick Jun 14 2007, 09:39 PM

Vermeilman's not in right now, can I take a message? laugh.gif

Posted by: JaxEagle Jun 14 2007, 09:45 PM

QUOTE(mike quick @ Jun 14 2007, 10:39 PM) [snapback]116710[/snapback]

Vermeilman's not in right now, can I take a message? laugh.gif


Stop it right now Mike Quick happy.gif

Posted by: Buddysballs Jun 14 2007, 09:57 PM

QUOTE(JaxEagle @ Jun 14 2007, 10:38 PM) [snapback]116709[/snapback]

Vman, I don't agree with everything the mods do either, but it is a tough job being a moderator.


Umm.. I don't understand what is so tough about enforcing one of the main rules of the board.

On Wingheads main faq is says that personal attacks of any kind will not be tolerated.

So, if your a moderator and you read "YOUR A RETARD" or "YOU SCUMBAG" etc.. the post should be deleted and poster warned. Im not sure whats so hard to understand about reading and identifying a personal attack. Its obvious that some are just ignored because the mods have their own agenda.. and thats what is kind of sad because they may have driven a good poster away.

Just read this:

<<< All Eagles fans are welcome at Wingheads. The principal purpose of Wingheads is to provide a forum for Eagle fans to discuss their passion. We don't care where you came from or how you got here. We don't care if you know the reason we are here or agree with our perspective of why Wingheads started. None of that is relevant.

We do not condone character attacks on other people or on other sites. This was a motivating factor in the formation of Wingheads. We will attempt to filter all such attempts... >>>



Posted by: JaxEagle Jun 14 2007, 10:06 PM

QUOTE(Buddysballs @ Jun 14 2007, 10:57 PM) [snapback]116714[/snapback]

Umm.. I don't understand what is so tough about enforcing one of the main rules of the board.

On Wingheads main faq is says that personal attacks of any kind will not be tolerated.

So, if your a moderator and you read "YOUR A RETARD" or "YOU SCUMBAG" etc.. the post should be deleted and poster warned. Im not sure whats so hard to understand about reading and identifying a personal attack. Its obvious that some are just ignored because the mods have their own agenda.. and thats what is kind of sad because they may have driven a good poster away.


Could it not be considered a personal attack the way Vman slung around the religion thing - giving it a negative connotation? Regardless of the fact that I have stated I knew what he meant, you can easily see why making a judgement as a moderator in this situation isn't so simple. You always have to consider precedent. Bottom line, it's not easy... trust me... my job forces me into a similar role everyday... it is tough making subjective judgements that will go against people...

Posted by: GQSmooth Jun 14 2007, 10:26 PM

Its not the mods job to change diapers. The two people whining in this thread keep poking their noses into hornets nests every day and now they cant take the heat? Happens every offseason. Both of you guys will be back just as soon as McNabb has a bad game.

Posted by: D Rock Jun 14 2007, 10:51 PM

QUOTE(Buddysballs @ Jun 15 2007, 02:57 AM) [snapback]116714[/snapback]

Umm.. I don't understand what is so tough about enforcing one of the main rules of the board.

On Wingheads main faq is says that personal attacks of any kind will not be tolerated.

So, if your a moderator and you read "YOUR A RETARD" or "YOU SCUMBAG" etc.. the post should be deleted and poster warned. Im not sure whats so hard to understand about reading and identifying a personal attack. Its obvious that some are just ignored because the mods have their own agenda.. and thats what is kind of sad because they may have driven a good poster away.

Just read this:

<<< All Eagles fans are welcome at Wingheads. The principal purpose of Wingheads is to provide a forum for Eagle fans to discuss their passion. We don't care where you came from or how you got here. We don't care if you know the reason we are here or agree with our perspective of why Wingheads started. None of that is relevant.

We do not condone character attacks on other people or on other sites. This was a motivating factor in the formation of Wingheads. We will attempt to filter all such attempts... >>>

Look you twit....

You wanna pay these "moderators" for the time needed to police this place? Unlike yourself, these people have real lives. And the STILL find the time to put this place here for US. You gotta problem with a post? Why not take the advice that's been offered here a thousand times and report it to a moderator. It's lunacy to assume anyone has the time to police each and every post on this board.

You've done nothing in your time here beyond stir shit and quote madden ratings. The quality of your input here leaves me to say "Don't go away mad. Just go away."

As for VMan, I honestly can't understand what he's upset about with this'n.

You don't go gettin upset when 'goo calls ya out. 'Goo's one of the good ones and is just having some fun in his wise (geriatric) way. VMan knows better.


Posted by: Buddysballs Jun 14 2007, 10:55 PM

QUOTE(D Rock @ Jun 14 2007, 11:51 PM) [snapback]116718[/snapback]

Look you twit....




Of course your name-calling won't be moderated... Wingheads..the board that condones personal attacks on anyone with a different opinion. And you wonder why Vman got frustrated and left.

Posted by: D Rock Jun 14 2007, 10:57 PM

QUOTE(Buddysballs @ Jun 15 2007, 03:55 AM) [snapback]116721[/snapback]

why is this guy allowed to just name-call without being warned? he starts off with LOOK YOU TWIT? Come on.. i thought personal attacks were not going to be allowed here?

Aaaaaawwwweeeee

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Does your pussy hurt? Do you need some vagisil? I think RF loaned a tube to VMan....

ohmy.gif

Oh, the humanity....He called me a "twit."

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Seriously though...

You REALLY got a problem with being called a "twit" rolleyes.gif report the post to a moderator. What the hell do you think cryin about it is going to accomplish beyond solidifying in everyone's mind the already held notion that you are, indeed, a twit?

hunch.gif

Posted by: Big Brother Jun 14 2007, 11:00 PM

24/7 administration of this board does not happen all the time.

Real life sometimes interferes with our ability to be here all the time.

I just got on as did one other mod.

We will discuss the issue amongst the admins in the near future.

Your patience is appreciated.

Thanks to DRock for realizing the reasons for our sometimes slower than expected reaction to events.

If Vermeilman or anyone else wishes to clarify a complaint, please do so in a PM.

Thank You.

Posted by: Buddysballs Jun 14 2007, 11:02 PM

QUOTE(D Rock @ Jun 14 2007, 11:57 PM) [snapback]116724[/snapback]

Aaaaaawwwweeeee

boohoo.gif

Does your pussy hurt? Do you need some vagisil? I think RF loaned a tube to VMan....

ohmy.gif

Oh, the humanity....He called me a "twit."

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Seriously though...

You REALLY got a problem with being called a "twit" rolleyes.gif report the post to a moderator. What the hell do you think cryin about it is going to accomplish beyond solidifying in everyone's mind the already held notion that you're a twit?

hunch.gif


Of course your name-calling won't be moderated... Wingheads..the board that condones personal attacks on anyone with a different opinion. And you wonder why Vman got frustrated and left.

This board is really becoming a carbon copy of the other board with the name calling, personal attacks, and lets run anyone who we don't agree with out of here attitude. Its a shame the people who founded this board forgot the reason behind its creation. "We do not condone character attacks on other people or on other sites. This was a motivating factor in the formation of Wingheads."

Posted by: D Rock Jun 14 2007, 11:06 PM

QUOTE(Buddysballs @ Jun 15 2007, 04:02 AM) [snapback]116726[/snapback]

Of course your name-calling won't be moderated... Wingheads..the board that condones personal attacks on anyone with a different opinion. And you wonder why Vman got frustrated and left.

This board is really becoming a carbon copy of the other board with the name calling, personal attacks, and lets run anyone who we don't agree with out of here attitude. Its a shame the people who founded this board forgot the reason behind its creation.

If you honestly feel being called a "twit" constitutes "an attack" than football message boards should be relegated to your "places to avoid" list as you're obviously one with some VERY delicate sensibilities.




Posted by: Buddysballs Jun 14 2007, 11:10 PM

QUOTE(D Rock @ Jun 15 2007, 12:06 AM) [snapback]116727[/snapback]

If you honestly feel being called a "twit" constitutes "an attack" than football message boards should be relegated to your "places to avoid" list as you're obviously one with some VERY delicate sensibilities.


I may have different opinions than you on a lot of things from McNabb to Reid etc.. but I have never insulted you personally even though you have probably called me more than 10 names ranging from asshole to retard to twit etc over the past year. I don't know why you can't debate without name calling and i don't know why its allowed to continue when its not necessary and also against the boards rules.

Posted by: D Rock Jun 14 2007, 11:15 PM

QUOTE(Buddysballs @ Jun 15 2007, 04:10 AM) [snapback]116729[/snapback]

I may have different opinions than you on a lot of things from McNabb to Reid etc.. but I have never insulted you personally even though you have probably called me more than 10 names ranging from asshole to retard to twit etc over the past year. I don't know why you can't debate without name calling and i don't know why its allowed to continue when its not necessary and also against the boards rules.

First, I've never called you (or anyone) a retard. It's simply not a part of my vernacular.

Secondly, I happen to think you ARE an asshole. I'm entitled to my opinion, aren't I?

Finally, You can't see my "warning meter." I've been taken to task for my transgressions. It's a weakness of mine that I find petulent little asshole adolescent twits annoying. I do my best to keep it to myself, but when you go whinning about the moderators "job performance" someone needed to smack some sense into you, even if it does mean my meter will jump a bit further to the right.

Now, go 'head and get your "last word" in. I'm sending you back to "ignore" so as to not be motivated to insult you further.

Ciao.

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Posted by: Buddysballs Jun 14 2007, 11:20 PM

QUOTE(D Rock @ Jun 15 2007, 12:15 AM) [snapback]116730[/snapback]

First, I've never called you (or anyone) a retard. It's simply not a part of my vernacular.

Secondly, I happen to think you ARE an asshole. I'm entitled to my opinion, aren't I?

Finally, You can't see my "warning meter." I've been taken to task for my transgressions. It's a weakness of mine that I find petulent little asshole adolescent twits annoying. I do my best to keep it to myself, but when you go whinning about the moderators "job performance" someone needed to smack some sense into you, even if it does mean my meter will jump a bit further to the right.

Now, go 'head and get your "last word" in. I'm sending you back to "ignore" so as to not be motivated to insult you further.

Ciao.

ph34r.gif


I don't think we can see other users warning meters.

Posted by: Reality Fan Jun 15 2007, 01:07 AM

QUOTE(D Rock @ Jun 15 2007, 12:15 AM) [snapback]116730[/snapback]


Finally, You can't see my "warning meter." I've been taken to task for my transgressions. It's a weakness of mine that I find petulent little asshole adolescent twits annoying.

ph34r.gif


An admission of self-loathing? It is the first step to recovery.

lol

Posted by: Reality Fan Jun 15 2007, 01:21 AM

QUOTE(D Rock @ Jun 14 2007, 11:57 PM) [snapback]116724[/snapback]

Aaaaaawwwweeeee

boohoo.gif

Does your pussy hurt? Do you need some vagisil? I think RF loaned a tube to VMan....

ohmy.gif

Oh, the humanity....He called me a "twit."

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Seriously though...

You REALLY got a problem with being called a "twit" rolleyes.gif report the post to a moderator. What the hell do you think cryin about it is going to accomplish beyond solidifying in everyone's mind the already held notion that you are, indeed, a twit?

hunch.gif


A few things you got wrong. I never loan anything, I am a greedy bastard.

I am insulted you question my hygiene, I don't need vagisil.

For me, the frustrating part of outright name callingg in a forum such as this is that I can't reach out a hug my fellow posters when such things occur. Oh my would I enjoy that. Just give them a great big pat on the back and show them my friendship. Yes sirree....a great big pat......

toodles V-man, best wishes.





Posted by: Osceola Jun 15 2007, 05:11 AM

QUOTE(Buddysballs @ Jun 14 2007, 10:29 PM) [snapback]116707[/snapback]

This has been going on here for a long time.. even though the faq of the board says personal attacks will not be tolerated.. they let it happen over and over. Its a shame if the mods not doing their job forces you away because your posts are one of the main reasons I come to this board so let me know what board you'll be on.

Sometimes its easier to sit on the sideline and judge the play than it is to be on the field calling the plays. Its certainly safer.

Posted by: JaxEagle Jun 15 2007, 07:30 AM

QUOTE(Reality Fan @ Jun 15 2007, 02:07 AM) [snapback]116736[/snapback]

An admission of self-loathing? It is the first step to recovery.

lol

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Posted by: AustinFan Jun 15 2007, 07:51 AM

While D-Rock and RF do slip on occassion, this is all a tempest in a teapot.

VM and BB take a lot of flak, ALL of it deserved, when you get your kicks stirring shit, you have to expect some of it to stick to you. Both post deliberately provocative (in the worst sense) items designed to get a reaction, not to promote discussion or even friendly repartee.

I'd say overall the board's been pretty darn tolerant.

Posted by: TGryn Jun 15 2007, 07:57 AM

QUOTE(Osceola @ Jun 15 2007, 03:11 AM) [snapback]116742[/snapback]

Sometimes its easier to sit on the sideline and judge the play than it is to be on the field calling the plays. Its certainly safer.

Agree 100%.

Since we all know VMan will be back eventually, this is strickly tempest-in-a-teapot stuff, pretty much on par for this time of the offseason. sleep.gif

Posted by: mike quick Jun 15 2007, 07:58 AM

QUOTE(AustinFan @ Jun 15 2007, 07:51 AM) [snapback]116746[/snapback]

While D-Rock and RF do slip on occassion, this is all a tempest in a teapot.

VM and BB take a lot of flak, ALL of it deserved, when you get your kicks stirring shit, you have to expect some of it to stick to you. Both post deliberately provocative (in the worst sense) items designed to get a reaction, not to promote discussion or even friendly repartee.

I'd say overall the board's been pretty darn tolerant.
Ding Ding Ding! We have a winner!!!


I really have tried to just avoid replying to there posts just for that reason..... They can go pound sand as far as I'm concerned because this board just got better with 2 of those types eliminated.

Posted by: JaxEagle Jun 15 2007, 08:13 AM

QUOTE(AustinFan @ Jun 15 2007, 08:51 AM) [snapback]116746[/snapback]

While D-Rock and RF do slip on occassion, this is all a tempest in a teapot.

VM and BB take a lot of flak, ALL of it deserved, when you get your kicks stirring shit, you have to expect some of it to stick to you. Both post deliberately provocative (in the worst sense) items designed to get a reaction, not to promote discussion or even friendly repartee.

I'd say overall the board's been pretty darn tolerant.


yep

Posted by: Pila Jun 15 2007, 09:22 AM

Now! Now! Calm down, everyone - we can't have them both leave! One of them gotta stick around so they can post pictures of their Disney vacations with black guys and Caribean cruises with Mormons... Otherwise we're left with just MD's lesbian tenants. And that wouldn't be right.

Posted by: BgBry44 Jun 15 2007, 09:41 AM

QUOTE(Buddysballs @ Jun 14 2007, 11:20 PM) [snapback]116731[/snapback]

I don't think we can see other users warning meters.


Re-read his post. He acknowledges that you can't see it.

Posted by: Osceola Jun 15 2007, 09:42 AM

QUOTE(mike quick @ Jun 15 2007, 08:58 AM) [snapback]116750[/snapback]

this board just got better with 2 of those types eliminated.

The board did NOT get better. Because a given poster may have different opinions or choose to express those opinions in a manner that some find abrasive or contrary may mean they become a target for chiding but it neither makes their opinion wrong or suggests they should not participate here.

As was already stated, the moderators here have families and jobs and are not always present 24/7. If we fail to react quickly enough or fairly enough to a given situation it is not indicative of favoritism or a neglect for the concept or rules of this forum but is merely a reflection of our being human. It is not always so clear where a line should be drawn with regards to personal attacks. If one is looking for perfection in moderation of an internet bulletin board this is not the place to find it. We try. Sometimes we miss but I think we hit more often.

I will add that the best moderation is self-imposed. Most of the posters here are intelligent enough and mature enough to know when they or someone else has gone too far. Most posters understand and practice restraint when a line has been crossed. Maybe some should be a bit more tolerant in a given situation but mostly it seems people get along pretty well here and enjoy the community.

Posted by: Pila Jun 15 2007, 09:53 AM

You tell 'em, Osceola!

That's right! All of you need to grow up some. Frankly, some of you have disappointed today, it's never cool to make fun of the impaired. That's all I'm saying.


Posted by: xsv Jun 15 2007, 09:56 AM

I'm sorry to see anyone leave here. And I enjoy reading both VM and BBs posts.

The thing that they don't seem to understand though, is that this forum is not moderated 24/7. When posts cross the line, we moderate them, usually in our own time, and the offending poster almost always gets an infraction. Once someone gets 5 infractions, they are temporarily banned. There's been at least one permanent ban from someone who repeatedly broke this policy.

What we cannot do is always edit the post in a timely manner. Maybe it gets edited a day or two later. And how do you know the offending poster didn't get reprimanded? I know that back when I was activly moderating the board, that I was handing out infractions to people without notifying the person that was offended. It happens all the time.

All I can say is, if you feel a posts is across the line, REPORT IT, and a moderator will take the action they deem appropriate, and you may not be made aware of that action.

Also, if you think you can do a better job, by all means, please feel free apply to be a moderator. It's a thankless job, on a volunteer basis, and like I said previously, we don't have 100% coverage.

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